22 children killed with knife in China

[gotlucky]

I’m glad they know what “Ol’ George” would think today. It’s truly an impressive feat. Just think of how knowledgeable these people must be. Not only do they have extensive knowledge as to Washington’s beliefs on both personal and political ethics, they know exactly how that would translate to the modern American culture and political system.

[National_Acrobat]

@boniek

Biggest flaw in liberal logic is to me the fact that banning simply means that one group of people (criminals - public and private) are immune to ban while non-criminal private sector is not. It is simply a way to give more power (physical and psychological) to one group of people (imho “bad”, parasitic people) at the cost of another group of people (“good”, productive people). Banning guns will improve security of those that will have guns - namely criminals, public and private.

You can minimize effects violence only when either nobody has weapons or when everybody has them. Giving government and criminals (purely semantic difference) exclusive access to weaponry seems like dumb idea to me if you do not value concentration of power and all assorted baggage.

I agree with all of that, but that doesn’t mean you have to play dumb to the intentional lethality of guns vs swimming pools.

[Torsten]

I agree with all of that, but that doesn’t mean you have to play dumb to the intentional lethality of guns vs swimming pools.

So you are using a design argument here?

I’d agree, Among other things guns are designed to injure or kill bad guys safely or to threaten to do so.

Among other things Swimming pools are designed to swim and relax in safely.

[Autolykos]

@National Acrobat

I agree with all of that, but that doesn’t mean you have to play dumb [sic] to the intentional lethality of guns vs swimming pools.

Just what difference must intentional lethality make?

[National_Acrobat]

@Autolykos

@National Acrobat

I agree with all of that, but that doesn’t mean you have to play dumb [sic] to the intentional lethality of guns vs swimming pools.

Just what difference must intentional lethality make?

It does’t have to make any difference. However, people who support gun control generally consider the lethal purposes that guns are designed for a major part of the reason they want to restrict them. Playing dumb to this won’t convince them of anything. If you’re goal is to refute and convince people that disagree with you, it’s pretty important to consider this.