96 Polish Officials including president dead

President of Poland isn’t a very important position. They have a prime minister.

The loss of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is probably most significant, but I wouldn’t read too much into it unless someone was planning an imminent military attack on Poland, and if they were, the Polish Joint Chiefs would not be the greatest obstacle to an attack on a NATO country.

The Russians had advised the plane to land at Moscow or Minsk because of heavy fog, but it looks like the President didn’t care about aviation safety and ordered the pilot to land anyway because he didn’t want to be late for the Katyn ceremony, and the pilot complied because the last pilot who diverted the plane was court-martialed. He crashed on the fourth landing attempt.

so the plane didn’t crash because mechanical failure

Now an interesting question in regard to this would be.. Did the high officials morally deserve to die.. had they given up their right to life through their actions? Judging by Rothbard’s proportional punishment principle and the things the guys had done that would be the case.

Fully agree.

I dunno, that’s between them and God now.

great, lets start dropping teachers and dmv workers. hey, they lived on stolen funds.

Many teachers advocate theft and kidnapping. That is, many teachers want the state to tax people (theft) and take kids away from their parents so that the kids can be incarcerated in schools (kidnapping).

Lol, good luck with that.

you have to put ethics in a cultural context. if you grew up in a culture where kidnapping brides was the norm, you wouldnt think twice about doing it. yes, every person is given mental faculties to make ethical choices for herself, but judging teachers who advocate rights violations is applying standards that they are unaware of.

Hasty generalization. People can change. I know plenty of people who grew up with wife-beating dads who would think twice about hitting their wives.

So? If someone from the jungle, who was raised by gorillas, comes to your house and rapes you, is that someone not guilty of rape?

“Hasty generalization. People can change. I know plenty of people who grew up with wife-beating dads who would think twice about hitting their wives.”

they live in a culture that considers wife beating violence. the contention is not over them changing their behavior but living with a different set of ethical standards.

“So? If someone from the jungle, who was raised by gorillas, comes to your house and rapes you, is that someone not guilty of rape?”

yes he is, but he is ignorant of his wrongdoing. public teachers are usually upstanding people who would never think that what they do is actually kidnapping and theft.

Define the parameters of the “culture.” Their household? Their expended family? Their friends at school? Their block? Their neighborhood? Their city? Their state? Their country? Or some other arbitrary standard?

And you implied that that set of ethical standards do not change over time.

But do you agree that they are still advocating theft and kidnapping?

But do you agree that they are still advocating theft and kidnapping?

yes, and must pay back for their crimes if the victims press charges.