Because of my naturally paranoid nature, butressed by some physical and sexual assault experiences in the past, I pretty much won’t go anywhere without a gun. I keep several guns in my home. Even so, I don’t go out much except to work. I am something of an armadillo.
If you’re half as antagonizing in real life as you are on this forum, then there’s no wonder you have nowhere to go.
If you’re half as antagonizing in real life as you are on this forum, then there’s no wonder you have nowhere to go.
Damn
If you’re half as antagonizing in real life as you are on this forum, then there’s no wonder you have nowhere to go.
Yeah, because the rest of the world is obsessed with proving that TEH GOVMENT IS EVIL.
Obviously we would all be traumatized if we were mugged on a regular basis. But we are. Taxes are way worse than losing a couple of hundred bucks getting mugged.
So if you would develop an anxiety disorder from repeated mugging, how can you logically argue that we ought not to have anxiety disorders caused by taxation / statist support?
When I say you’re antagonizing I don’t mean our differences of opinion, I refer to your mode of discourse. Shit like calling vast numbers of people retards or clowns on every occasion is best left on 4chan.
Anxiety is often caused by uncertainty about the future. Or I should say the relative uncertainty about the future except for the certainty of death. And, interestingly enough, taxes. All one ever knows is that they will die and that it’s very likely they will get taxed before that happens and so it is natural to feel anxiety.
So if you would develop an anxiety disorder from repeated mugging, how can you logically argue that we ought not to have anxiety disorders caused by taxation / statist support?
Because muggings are traumatic while taxation is not (at least in my case). I’ve grown accustomed to being stolen from by the government. I know what they will do if I don’t obey them and I know the steps that I need to take in order to obey them. Muggings, on the other hand, are not that familiar.
calling vast numbers of people retards or clowns on every occasion is
A realistic assessment of the human race.
To be honest, I’m a skittish kitten in real life, with a bit of Victorianism; although I swear like a sailor around my friends. But that’s because offending real people has more serious consequences and, also, most real people don’t try to defend ‘natural law’ in my presence.
Similarly, I also believe it has to do with the fact that most Austro-Libertarians or minarchists, see what is coming a mile away. I don’t think it’s necessarily calming per se, when you have college students screaming about the fact that we need higher taxes to fund our failing public education system, when the welfare state is broke and in absolute shambles in this country.
I just pray to G** that we will get our house in order before it’s too late.
Like I said, I’m a student, so what the hell should I do? It’s not like I can move or anything…
I agree with this guy. I used to be interested in debate but now I’m far more interested in self-preservation. Luckily I have a girlfriend who listens to everything I harp on and agrees with most of it. When people start spouting statist quips, I just listen patiently and if anything will only recommend that they look into economics.
@LvMIenthusiast, I dunno, you can just protect yourself, both physically and financially if you ask me.
Also, even though it’s not particularly hard to see what’s coming, it’s hard to tell exactly when it will happen and what exactly will happen. Plenty to be nervous about.
Right I’m sure we would all by much more traumatized if we were beaten and robbed for the first time tomorrow. I agree that the regularity and apparent tranquility of the current mugging-system allows it to fly under the radar. I obviously wasn’t outraged when I first heard about taxation. But as I became more aware of the reality of modern society, it began to weigh on me (not just taxation, but this is a convenient reference).
It would also be quite different if everyone around me weren’t arguing for my continued mugging. We all have varying amounts of social support, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of people side with the aggressors, and might even participate in aggression themselves if put in political positions. Is it so unreasonable to fear the mob?
Yeah, definitely no shortages of what to be nervous about in the case of a complete economic collapse.
I lol’ed.
So how do you all deal with it?
I listen to music. A lot. It’s only “healthy” escape from this mad reality that I know.
Snowflake:
Remember that winning people over to liberty is a marathon, not a sprint. No matter how clear and consistent your arguments are, no matter how logically sound they are, and no matter how rhetorically persuasive, people are not going to accept any kind of holistic philosophy of liberty. It’s too big of a leap for people, who have lived their entire lives being taught that the state is moral and every bit a part of nature as the wind, rain, or snow. Our advantage, however, is that whether talking to a left-statist or right-statist, there is always some common ground we can establish with people. If you’re talking to a lefty, bring up topics such as civil liberties, the war on drugs, or foreign policy. To a neocon, talk about free markets, taxes, or regulation. If you proceed from the principle of self-ownership and non-aggression, then there’s a good chance you’re going to give them a perspective which justifies their position in a way in which they are unfamiliar, allowing you to develop rapport. If these people are truly your friends, then they will, given time, respect your opinion.
However, I understand the nature of your complaint. I associate with some people who are deathly afraid to allow me even to speak half a sentence when they know I disagree - and I am very humble in conversation (mostly) and don’t push my views on anyone. When you run into a group like this, remember the phrase “don’t cast your pearls before swine.” Move onto someone who is reasonable, wants to have a two-way discussion and learn, but also take the approach that you can learn from them (which you can, understanding how statists view the world is important for us). I have been successful in moving a small group of people towards libertarianism because I was able to continually find points which we could agree on. Given time and patience, open-minded people will come around. Stay away from know-it-alls or people who freak out when someone disagrees with them - there is no hope for these people.
It took myself more than five years to become a full-fledged libertarian, and I have to constantly remind myself of that. (Ironically, that’s a good way to develop credibility with people. If you can tell them you were once a neo-con or lefty, your libertarianism is revealed as the open-mindedness it really is.)
I watch a lot of Shin Chan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuywoC3H_AM&feature=channel
‘Not the number 3!! It’s lead content is dangerously high!’
Maybe see “The Art of fighting Without Fighting”?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw8HvKnEsto&feature=related
Regards, onebornfree.
move to New Hampshire