Anarcho-Capitalism and Homelessness

It implies that evil propertarian anarchists don’t care about homeless people and wouldn’t provide them shelter or food for free or some minor job (those the richest, for example)… This is absurd. While I am not a propertarian, but I wouldn’t agree, that people could be so evil and un-compassionate towards their fellow poor people. And that’s assuming all land could be privately owned in which I do not believe.

Yet another debunked argument, aka nirvana fallacy.

exactly exactly.

Say what you want about John D. Rockefeller, but I think his charity record is a tad bit better than Iosev Stalin’s.

Say I am sitting on a piece of unowned land. Then you come along and homestead nearby. You claim the area around your homestead (including the place where I sit).

So now you can shoot me for trespassing?

That is the problem with homesteading ownership. It stakes claim to earth that was not worked in addition to earth that has been worked because they are in close proximity. If you can only claim land that you are using (the land under your house or your feet), then all the natural land is free to be used.

Assuming your statement as true for all, doesn’t the State do the same thing by making it illegal to sleep on public property and eliminating private food drives?

Say what you want about John D. Rockefeller, but I think his charity record is a tad bit better than Iosev Stalin’s.

I love John D.Rockefeller, he started giving to charity the minute he got his firts paycheck. Like 10%.

@dude6935

You don’t invade someone’s property dude, I think you receive a warning and then you get shot.

It stakes claim to earth that was not worked in addition to earth that has been worked because they are in close proximity

If you bought the earth(payed with money(work of your labor)) then it is yours. If not you should ask for permission.

Say I am sitting on a piece of unowned land. Then you come along and homestead nearby. You claim the area around your homestead (including the place where I sit).

So now you can shoot me for trespassing?

This is the problem with:

A) morality; no one cares, nor can it be discussed

B) Homesteading as some “magical” notion; you can’t homestead a land that people won’t let you hometead. You would be stupid to try if you knew that was the case.

You can if you have bigger guns.

You can if you have bigger guns.

Than you have calculated and utilized correctly, it is the same point I made before.

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Assuming your statement as true for all, doesn’t the State do the same thing by making it illegal to sleep on public property and eliminating private food drives?

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but in state you can VOTE! Checkmate, you evil propertarian anarchist!

Damn, you got me…:stuck_out_tongue:

As long as someone is willing or able to work, chances are they won’t be homeless. The rest would be covered by charities or individual good will.

The idea that only uncharitable people would exist in a ancap society is astoundingly absurd. There’s all kinds of people in all kinds of societies as it is now. If they devoted a few minutes of thought they wouldn’t ask this.

As long as someone is willing or able to work, chances are they won’t be homeless. The rest would be covered by charities or individual good will.

Maybe a few homeless people could actually be a good thing. The possibility of winding up like them would give people more incentive to work harder and curb/avoid drug and alcohol use.

You can’t buy unowned earth.

I accidentally laughed out loud when I read that, and I’m in the library. Nice one.

Well, even in an anarchist world, the idea of a (big) domain that has a common (easement) aspect to it - private nor (by definition) government property - does make sense. So they could live there.

The idea of a private commons (obviously) makes sense in an anarchist world (i.e. Lin’s Ostrom’s empirical work in this statist world), so it also shouldn’t be a surprise that there might be some parts that are considered to be part of a commons where no one can claim private ownership over anyone else - as understood by the general customs of original private property acquisition.