Are humans' political motive truly beyond science?

Economics Political Theory
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That’s the whole point. I agree with Caley.

Are political motives beyond science? I agree. No. It’s too agnostic to me too.

Now:

Observation: many feminazis hate porn

Hyphotesis:

There are 3 theories that explain why feminazis prohibit porn

  1. Porn demean women. Cause rape, can’t possibly be consensual, bla bla. This is the standard argument.

  2. Feminazis are usually ugly. Like all women they are attention whore and porn stars pretty much get all the attention.

  3. They hate us so much they don’t want us to be happy.

Which of the hyphotesis make most sense.

What do you think?

Now let’s use our robber case to analyze

Well, it’s not that hard to figure out.

  1. Incentive, intent and result is highly correlated. What incentive do people have in protecting others from “demeaning” job? C’mon. Not that high.

  2. Watch how other primates behave. When a monkey see other monkeys copulate in exchange for fruit, and they fight, does the other monkey fight because they think exchanging sex for fruit is “demeaning” or are they just jealous?

  3. For example, we know that most species are selfish. Explanation #2 fits selfishness most. The #1 is too nobel and #3 too comical (though may be true too)

  4. Evolutionary psychology explains that getting rid superior competitors or more attractive speciments out of mating market can help ones’ own gene pool survival.

  5. Feminazis other acts, namely not condemning women from becoming soldiers, which is another shitty job, is consistent with the motive that they don’t have women’s best interest in mind. They’re just jealous that hot babes get all the attention.

I’d say

Hyphotesis #2 is correct. #3 is reasonable. #1 is utter bullshit.

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To reply to this is probably a bad idea, but I can’t help myself. Like a black hole it keeps pulling me in.

By restricting yourself to those 3 ‘theories’, you are building a case to support a conclusion that seems pre-ordained.
After all, religious conservatives, and conservatives in general are also known to be generally opposed to pornography, and yet I don’t see how they would fit into these categories.

You also present your ‘theories’ with an obvious bias against the first, and for the second two.

And finally, your reasoning is counter to what we can see historically.
Point 1: What do you mean by incentive? Do people have an ‘incentive’ to give money to beggars? No more than to make working conditions better for others. And yet people give to beggars and unionize to improve their working conditions. And indeed, they will even protest against sub-par working conditions for other individuals. (Anti-childlabor movements were seldom started by the working children themselves.)

Point 2: Who knows why primates fight, probably for food. They certainly don’t picket in order to end the fruit-for-copulation transactions, because reflection on these abstract concepts are mainly beyond other primates.

Point 3: Again, how, if organizing to rectify a perceived evil is impossible due to the selfishness of primates, was it possible to form unions and associations to stop these perceived evils? Why do people give money to beggars?

Point 4: How does opposing pornography remove superior competitors or more attractive specimens from the mating market?

Point 5: Feminists also do not condemn women from becoming septic tank service-women, which is most certainly a shitty job, nor any other job out on the market. Why is that? Could it be that they have a very specific complaint against a very specific set of occupations that they think run counter to their philosophy, and don’t oppose other occupations that do not run counter to their philosophy, but instead reinforce it?
Is it possible that THAT’s the reason, and not necessarily that, sigh, all the ‘hot babes’ get all the attention? (Seriously, are you fucking 15 or something?)
Seriously, if you looked over a list of regular sexual fetishes in porn, what categories do you find? Is it only, sigh, ‘hot babes’ that count as a category? Because if it isn’t, then your argument is pretty freaking weak.
Furthermore, is it your contention that the only possible kind of prostitute is a, sigh, ‘hot babe’?
Are women suddenly incapable of selling sex if they have a crooked nose, a disfiguring scar, are overweight or are older than most men prefer (which is the kindest way I can put out the idea that women above a certain age no longer counts as, sigh, ‘hot babes’)?

Sometimes the language we use betrays our bias, and I think that’s the case with you, here.

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The attractiveness factor is by far the easiest way for women to make money. Women are much less competitive than men in a strictly sexual respect.

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So it’s job envy? :slight_smile:

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vive, on a lighter note, what is that awesome avatar of yours?