Charity Not Enough?

Welfare before the Welfare State

I agree that mutual aid is a good solution to the healthcare problem, but there’s still the problem of clothes, gas, food, and rent.

What of it? Do you know what college students and graduates do for housing? They either live with their parents or share a living space with others. This is because housing can be expensive, and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to split the rent with others than to rent a place all to yourself. You ever hear of carpooling?

There are plenty of ways people can cut back on costs, but if you want to rent an apartment all to yourself and have a different outfit for everyday of the year like they do on TV, prepare to go into debt.

I call bullshit! I am an American, I deserve 365 outfits a year and my very own living space. thats why we have troops fighting teh enumeez over “c’s” anyway, you dont want their sacrifice to be in vain do you?

So they will have to split rent with others their entire lives? Will this even be enough? Rent apartments are very small.

You must live a very sheltered life.

Said the bourgeois armchair intellectual.

Clearly you have no experience looking for apartments or renting houses with friends in their 20’s and early 30’s. Different cities have different costs of living. You have also clearly never shopped at thrift stores or looked for awesome sales anywhere.

As for people sharing rent their entire lives, maybe you could live with family…it’s not like you have to live with strangers your whole life. My god you are sheltered.

Thanks for the positive feedback, Blargg… it’s encouraging. :slight_smile:

Clayton -

“You have also clearly never shopped at thrift stores or looked for awesome sales anywhere.”

I f***ing love Goodwill.

And yet we have the magic of rejection by all of his close friends and relatives? Sounds like you don’t know as much about his story as you think.

I didn’t know the purpose of wealthy people was to be around for poor people to “draw on”.

Get a job, keep the job, make the most of the job. When I was just out of school I brought home just enough money to have four walls, lights and a cup o’ ramen for about a year. But at least I had that much, and it got better.

You don’t think much of the skill sets of others, do you?

What solution is there to this?

Is it possible that this is a pseudo-question when dealing with any scope a social science can intelligibly discuss?

What you may want to concern yourself with, is at what level and structure could a society even ballpark a figure like this, and get anything close to worth while feedback - even in throwing out words like “charity” (hint: it probably wouldn’t have the structure of the EU).

See Ostrom for public choice theory on something like this - it isn’t inherently capitalistic, if that’s a beef of yours.