“OK theres a difference. But how big is that difference? If you saw the stuff the mutualists at Liberty Forum had on their table youd probably call them marxist. And didn’t Proudhon inspire Marx to become a socialist?”
There are a number of differences. Namely, mutualists reject the state or dictatorship of proletariat, and they support markets, money, and private property.
They only agree in that they are opposed to capitalists controlling the means of production. Instead advocating workers controlling it together, but still allowing them to sell goods in the market, own private property, and do other things that exist in a market economy. Mutualists also might advocate rebellion against the state and other institutions, whereas Marxists see communism as an inevitable fact of history. The marxists see rebellion as childish and unscientific.
Has to do with the fact you like to make wild remarks about something with no evidence, that you probably never read books by any mutualist nor have ever actually talked to any of them. You either think they are Marxists or Keynesians (a previous thread of yours you asked if mutualists believe everything Keynes and Marx said - which forfeits your ignorance that you do not know anything about them), and your way of connecting the dots is that one theorist influenced the other (but you have not probably read books by either). Thus, I ask, have you read any books (or anything) involving the ideas surrounding this thread?
I swear he has already addressed this in his prior statements. There must be some problem of reading comprehension and interest in only bias confirmation… His intentions are for an intellectual conversation not simple minded labeling. Bert actually tries to understand the othersides argument and not put forth strawman after strawman. I find these contributions of his worthwhile as a lurker. I’m being introduced to areas of thought outside of what I’m typically used to.
I’m sorry but your contributions pale in comparison and only find it humorous that you are still here after the berating by many from the community. If you cannot comprehend why he would talk to mutualists perhaps it would be best to reread and reflect on his previous responses to you rather than post baseless assumptions that amount to nothing but logical fallacies.
