That’s fine. I can make my own attempt - and I did.
That’s just one possibility. You read too much into the word “terrorism” itself, and therefore imagine it is all about creating a feeling of terror with you, when actually “terrorist” is the description given to these people by their enemies, specifically the governments they have a feud with and which are engaged in a propaganda war against them and have a stake in drawing them in a certain light.
It’s not terribly skeptical to imagine terrorists are all about what your 19th century government wanted you to believe they were.
And it’s never wise to learn about anyone from information from their enemies alone.
Correct me if I’m wrong, John, but you seemed to be implying that I was somehow either unable or had no right to do the same thing as what you allegedly did beforehand. Clearly I am able to do it, and I think I had the right to do it. Whether you disagree is irrelevant to me, to be quite honest. I just decided to inform you of that. Your mockery also makes no difference. My attitude remains the same.
I wouldn’t disagree with any of that; indeed no group would self describe as terrorist. May be what I meant to say is that acts which are not outright wins of brute force require an ideological element of sorts; to a large extent it is a competing propeganda war. Still the foundation of any investigation is Cui Bono.
Also people need to define their terms better. If by “inside job” you mean a plan of attack which was thoroughly infiltrated by government informants or even agens, and who may have been instrumental in motivating the rest of their co-conspirators into carrying it out and provided them with the means to do it. That is that it was a kind of entrapment, but which then was, for whatever reason, not foiled in time — then I would agree with you there is a significant chance of any apparent terrorist attack being something like this, simply because of how many times we have known it has happened before, or come close to. (Usually driven by a thirst to produce arrests and convictions, and if not neutralized in time ussually because of chronic incompetence.)
But if by an “inside job” you mean something which actually originated with or was greenlighted by someone from the Obama administration, because they obviously benefit and what not, then that is something a whole lot more fantastic*.*
So it is important what exactly do you mean by perpetrated by the US government, that it had critical help from somewhere inside the shambolic law-enforcement buerocracy, or that Joe Biden spent nights in a tiny locked room examining plans, the likes of to kill 3 people using a pressure cooker nail bomb?
Depending on what you mean by benefit. A benefit in the Misesian sense of satisfying wants certainly, but not necessarily beyond that.
The foundation of any investigation is who would want to do this and why?
Let’s not be simpletons stuck repeating two words in a loop, as if they made the answer immediately obvious.
Then what was your point in saying “Already tried that, chief”?
Perhaps you’d like to clarify this for me. I’m not a mind-reader, after all.
To point out his bullshit response from earlier and illustrate that you’re probably not going to get a satisfactory answer.
You’re the badass on the tricycle, of course.
Okay, fair enough then. The terseness of your statement, plus the use of the term “chief”, seemed to convey an undertone of “You’re an idiot for trying to do something I already tried to do myself - why can’t you just read?!” But I’ll happily stand corrected if that was just something I read into what you said.
My suspicion, which I cannot prove, is that most of these terrorist attacks orginate within the CIA or other world security operations rather than the visible government. Their goal being increasing their own power and wealth through greater government funding or by putting competition out of business when they drug deal to finance their operations. The entrapment model as outlined above could well be used but there would be no intention of actually arresting them - just putting enough distance between and the “terrorist” for plausible deniability.
Oh and yes the investigation should be based on who would want to do this and why.
I like how Marko tries to keep his wits about him and everyone else in here wants to throw themselves at the feet of Alex Jones. Good thing everyone here is an existentialist, eh.
If only there was proof of a drill…
“Oh, but we don’t need proof! Someone said there was a drill then the FB page timestamp. That is all we need to know. It is bullshit that you would question the conclusion that we already know to be true.”
EDIT: continually bobbing and weaving head around yo, dawgs, like, the government totally is responsible for everything that you see. Unless you think this you are in on it! If you’re in on it you must live to take rights away from strangers. I mean, c’mon, who hasn’t tried to take away the rtights of everyone they can be the most deceptive and violent means they can think of?? Right, JJ?? I’m not submlimating anything at all. I just totally want people to be free so I blame the government for everything that way I can use everything the government does to further my ideology that i picked up from this cool radio host in TX!
…unlike super cool secret agent guys like you who get told who to hate on and what to believe by random douchebags on youtube. Absolutely. Those dumbos who follow Alex Jones…they’re such naive sheep. They don’t understand Alex Jones is just a conspicacy within the conspiracy…they don’t realize they’re being fooled just like the regular public. They don’t realize how cool I am for dumping on the Alex Jones just like they dump on the official government story. I’m so cutting edge. I mean, I’m dumping on the guys who everyone else dumps on for being too extreme…because they’re not extreme enough! They’re seen as like fringe nutcases, and they’re too conformist for me! I’m like at the 64th level of the Matrix by now. Everyone who listens to the wrong guys on youtube just thinks they’re cool cuz they think they’re like in the know…but I know what they think they know isn’t so…because I know what I know is what no one but the most awesome spy guys know. Because I study this. And I know all the best channels on youtube.
blah blah. Search-bot nonesense. you’ve got absolutely no proof for your views just admit it. But, i did like how you demonize all “books” by referring to the 9/11/ Com. Report. you’re so clever fucking useless with your strawmen, false dichotomies, appeals to emotion, and ad hominems.
and I just saw Malachi’s post about “innocent until proven guilty.” - a commendable position to take among the sea of 'tards here. Even the mods cannot think clearly. how pathetic.
EDIT: Just an edit to provoke the search-bot to continue to research the threads.
shrug Hey man, if you’re not down with the in-the-know, that’s cool. I mean if you want to be some naive sheep that’s fine with me. I mean I just found some douchebag on youtube last week who told me how RyDaw was some shill working for the CFR…spreading disinfo for the TC under direction of the Illuminati super super elite because the Bilderberg group said it would help the NWO.
I know it’s true. Some douchebag on youtube told me this other douchebage was for real. If you don’t know how to do research that’s fine. I study this.
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Well shit dawg, if you’re going to keep editing your posts after they’re published, how do you ever expect the full bullshit responses you deserve? Come on man. Be cool. Get down with the cool spy guy program. We don’t play dat. Watch somemore youtube and let’s compare notes.
In an inside job in this case would mean that there were conspirators within the organization that held the marathon. The insideness could be extended to the cops if the cops were contracted by the organization that held the marathon to provide security and if the cops were the ones that did it. It would not be an inside job if Blackwater/CIA simply sent to two dudes to drop off backpacks with pressure cookers on to the sidewalk.
oh, no you conviced me that the government is omnipotent, omniscient, etc. Everything in the world that happens is due to the government staging it so that it can take rights away. There is no such thing as organic culture; it is all synthetic. There is no inbetween. Either the government did it or it didn’t happen.
Wait, wut?
I’ll include you in that if you think that the FB page timestamp is evidence of government planning and staged terror as most of this thread does.
Also,
Why do any of those constraints apply? Are those the only scenarios in which you think inside job is possible? It can go down no other ways? Thereare no other combinations of “ifs, coulds, woulds” that could produce that result. please think clearly.
Me, Marko, and Malachi are the only ones who seem to think that we need “evidence” before we start condemning. Most people in this thread think like police; no evidence is necessary if enough people’s perception lies a certain way. JJ is so thouroughly embarrassed that he got more mad over night, haha. Read my posts specifically for the parts that JJ doesn’t take issue with because they are what are important, not his diversions and appeals to emotion or, in these last few posts of his, idiocy.
JJ, you literally, universally wrote off “books” and “research” because the 9/11 Com. Report. You cannot believe yourself what you are saying, do you? In real life do you think that books and research are irrelevant since they can be used as propaganda?
Go read my comments about JJ’s universal thinking. 1s and 0s, bot boy. 1s and 0s.