We also have to remember that a lot of the ‘racism’ of these figures was not necessarily based on racial superiority/inferiority, but rather a belief that individuals of the various races could not live side by side on a large scale without mass social unrest. I am not, of course, denying that many believed in a greatly significant superiority of one race over another.
You trying to look into psychology is a joke.
Dude all I was doing was pointing out that I think there may be an eccentric cultural / personality thing with libertarians. I wasn’t making an argument, I wasn’t trying to make an argument, It has nothing to do with logic…it was just a generic intuitive psychologizing comment. If you think it is a joke, fine whatever.
you are trying to deny the fact that central banking is more important than a tribe of indians.
I’ll make one more pass at this. You are still making an arbitrary value statement if you think one over the other negatively effects people.
so go feel proud that you are sticking up for minority groups while disparaging the real issues that effect everyone regardless of what color their skin is.
You got me wrong. I am not sticking up for the indians, I am pointing out why some strand of libertarians are a fringe element in society who will never make a relevant difference in anything they claim to care about, in part this may be due to their psycological temperment.
Anyway, now I am done addressing you.
How terribly socialist of me to say that a massacre of native Americans is worse than a central bank. Yes, because a central bank is clearly a more intolerable denial of individual rights than murder.
Now, did I say that we should uselessly impose today’s moral standards on figures that lived over one hundred years ago? No. Have I said history should not be looked at in context? No, and I would actually suggest quite the contrary.
There is no doubt that racists, sexists, murders, and other people who are morally corrupt have given out good brain food. However, people such as former presidents should not be looked upon as examples or idols. If you wish to look for examples of people resisting tyrannical government, then you can find it. You can find people resisting the US while these people were in office. My suggestion would be that we look to those who fought against tyrants instead of the tyrants themselves.
Is that adressed at me, or did you just click on me because I was the last post? If that was addressed at me I’m a bit confused as I don’t disagree with you…other than maybe I wouldn’t call the socialist mind set any more or less inherently desirable to have a distaste for massacre than the liberal market mind set. These political groupings tend to attract people of all stripes.
Just clicked reply because it was closest. The socialist thing was in reponses to Em_pty’s assertions that I was just quoting Noam Chomsky and going off on some kind of socialist tirade, instead of thinking for a minute that I have a distatse for massacre.
On a separate note, I’ve noticed Em_pty Skin’s posts have been disappearing, as well as some of mine. Does anyone have any idea why?
Empty Skin got banned for his trollish behavior . If the posts of yours that are missing is you trying to defend yourself against his insanity, my guess is the mods did some general clean up work on some of the threads he derailed,
If any of your posts got deleted, then it was because they were replies to Em_ptySkin’s posts that were made after he had been banned.
Okay, makes sense.
The reason my posts are deleted makes sense, that is, not the banning. But it seems like enough folks have said what I would anyway.