Hi, Just wanted to run something by you guys to get your thoughts. All of the criticisms I have read on socialism/communism have focused on state socialism (state capitalism?) where the state is 100% in control of the means of production, or the social democracies. I agree with everything I have r…

Thanks for the reply. Yes I agree that’s one of the problems I saw. Which is probably why, as I said, many lefties suggest skipping this intermediate stage altogether and having no state from the beginning. I must add that of course I am against the idea people’s property should be forcefully taken…

As distinct from old-school socialism, the left-wing strains of ‘anarchism’ or even ‘libertarianism’ are perhaps a bit different. Perhaps they think the dictatorship of the proletariat should take a decentralised form, somehow, or even that it isn’t a necessary stage to bring about the communist uto…

I do too, using force to take ones property should not be advocated. Even market-socialists know that this is such a horrid thing to do. From what I have read from your two posts, you seem like the person that would be interested in reading Lysander Spooner or Benjamin Tucker… While I do not agree w…

I will have to think about this post for a while. Thanks for the welcome.

Thanks I will check them out, Spooner and Tucker I mean. Not quite got my head round how to quote peoples posts on this forum.

Thanks for the quoting tutorial. OK, so if I want to get my head around the concept that self-ownership gives rise to property rights and the non-aggression principle, what do you suggest I read? I think this is where my current confusion lies. And of course when we talk about property we are not …

You should read The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard. http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/ethics.asp The way I see it, a “right” is a legal concept that’s distinct from a privilege. Unlike a privilege, a right is fundamentally inalienable and inherent by definition, while privileges are granted a…

Wow, that was well put. I am 100% with you up to and including the non-aggression principal. When you say that the acquisition of private property is appropriate as it does not violate the non-aggression principal, you are saying that anything is appropriate which does not violate the non-aggressio…

Assuming you can show damages to property you have ownership of, yes the company would be aggressing against you. This is the difference between “He emits CO2 and is destroying the earth! Throw him in jail!” and “The pig farm you just built makes my existing home unlivable.” For the second part, i…

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