You’re right. He is motivated by profit and power. And he gets that by promoting politics, not principle.
Nothing exciting happens in the maintstream. The mainstream aren’t going to be of any value to an intellectual (r)evolution until they turn off their TVs are start thinking for themselves. Tuning into some media demagogue for an opinion is exactly what we have to push back on. No shortcuts.
I suspect it is because he is an epic douchebag. He’s apparently legendary for being a chicken in public. When he has the mic, he’s a big mouth, when he has to face his critics, he wilts.
Thanks. Yeah, no doubt you and many others here did. There was a slight few over at Ron Paul Forums, but the majorityover there had no real clue unfortunately.
I’ve been trying to push a lot of them to investigate the Austrian School with some successes.
I have a few thousand posts on the RPF. But I don’t read or post there anymore. Good people, but as I started reading and posting here it was tough to hang around with politically active Republicans.
I see that Ron P. is on all news channels. Maybe Glenn Beck is accepting of them as being guests, but it comes off as ratings and a way for the neocon to hijack Constitutionalists and Libertarians. Of course a show on TV would have to eventually address the growing Ron P. reloveution. They can’t ignore it. I don’t have TV so that’s why I asked. I don’t watch Glenn Beck at all cause when I did have TV I remember him calling Ron P. a quack and stuff like that.
Than when he first started? He’s been around for a long time. Glenn Beck is just riding the waves. He’s just going with what is popular.
Well, they couldn’t ignore Ron P. forever. Sorry. I’ve known Glenn Beck for many years and on a dime he’s shifted to Ron P… on a dime… so I think he’s just showboating and maybe he is finally waking up to a good thing. But Glenn Beck has a lot of proving to do. His character has been tainted. He shows no principles to change like that overnight. But maybe he will learn something and become stronger in his principles. We’ll see.
You know who to really watch out for. Mark Sanford. He’s the biggest dupper of them all so far. I don’t know if anybody else has noticed him gaining appeal within the Republican Party. I think he might try to run for President. The Republican Party needs a new face and somebody that comes across as a true conservative. He gave back, what, maybe 5% of the stimulus (advocated giving it back don’t really know for sure if he could and did actually give it back. don’t know if he could because those stimulus packages could only be turned down by the State representatives, the governors had no say, but I don’t know for sure on this, so, he would have just been making a calculated move), and now all of a sudden he’s a hero to some in this movement. He’s the South Carolina governor if any didn’t know. I’ve already had to confront people on him in other places. I confront people on these issues cause I want to know what actions the politician has actually made. For instance, Ron P. is everywhere sticking up for his principles and he’s super knowledgeable about these issues. His impromptu is very impressive. But as to Mark Sanford they really think he’s helpful cause:
1 - here’s against the Federal Reserve (who isn’t if they want to pick up Ron P.'s momentum)
2 - he’s for 9th and 10th Amendment (I think with all the State’s coming out in favor of the succession movement it’s more political and fashionable than actual hardcore line in the sands unless these State’s actually doing something about it more. It seems some states are really serious about this issue and some are not. But it is too early to tell.)
3 - he turned down ca. 5% of the stimulus package (big deal).
I bring him up cause he was starting to write posts at the Campaign for Liberty website and some at the website were in awe of him. It has recently emerged that he chats and stands with Newt Ginrich on war and other foreign policy issues. So now somebody posted at Campaign for Liberty that they ought to take a step back and re-examine him. Mark Sanford is going to pick up a lot a suckers with his propaganda. The way to know if somebody is really convinced in the principles they talk about is to notice how much does that individual go around and speak out against the ‘wrongs’ in the government. How much do they know about a topic instead of speaking slogans. Do they happen to know why the Federal Reserve is not good. There is an intellectual factor that has to be taken noticed of when viewing these people.
Actually, I think they can ignore Ron Paul forever and it was never made so clear than in the primaries. Glenn Beck was the only one that gave him an hour(really 40 minutes because of commercials) to speak his mind. Yeah, he appeared on other shows but he was given 3 minutes to speak and was constantly interrupted. Ron Paul was even cut out of the debates. Ron Paul did do Meet the press but he was constantly interrupted and challenged. He was asked about the earmarks and then accused of being hypocritical. Then Paul was interrupted by Tim and who quickly moved on to the next question before he could answer at all.
It is possible to change opinion on one stance over night if confronted with a compelling argument. To expect people to change ALL their positions at once to libertarian positions goes against human nature. It is never gonna happen. It is also possible to have beliefs that contradict principles. You just have to look at the Republican and Democrat Party. What we should be doing is to define these principles and show people the contradictions and not bash them and say “you are not a pure libertarian GTFO”.
We should be sending Glenn books on libertarian foreign policy. He has show a willingness to read about current issues and then promote them. Like Peter Schiff’s crash proof. He didn’t get the ideas about the evils of the federal reserve out of thin air. You just have to point him in the right direction. Gradualism can work because it did work for me. I’m willing to send him a book myself. Just give me a book recommendation.
In politics you can’t ignore a growing population of opposition unless you want to compete and/or war against them at some point in time.
We can guess all day to his true aspirations. I don’t see how you valuing him and my not valuing him as completely as you seem to needs to be debated. Values can’t be debated over and over again. It’s like beating a dead horse. I’m not changing my story (nor have you). But I guess we only find that out by discussing.
I may be coming from a slightly different perspective here because I’ve listened to GB almost since he was brand new (about 2 years into the show when he moved to Philly). I think he’s a pretty good guy. Not perfect, but he’s honest about it, and he puts up no (or fewer) illusions. He says he’s biased and running a for-profit business all the time, which is more than you can say about most other news related shows.
Glenn did seem to turn on a dime in becoming more of a Ron Paul supporter (still not sure if he’s 100% there but I’d wager he’d vote for RP), but I don’t think that means he’s just showboating at all. I feel like I did the same exact thing, and I don’t have a TV or radio show! I think the change can happen pretty fast because the message is so powerful. When the concepts of freedom start to really spark in your mind, maybe it’s just me, but it just makes more sense than any of the other garbage you’ve heard before.
But I’m sure everyone is different, and sometimes it does take a gradual change at least in certain areas before that spark can really ignite. For me it was Ron Paul on economics. I didn’t buy into the foreign policy right away–at all, but that’s when my research started. I figured if he was so correct on economics…well what about the other stuff?
Anyway, it’s nice to know that you’ve found the right school of thought, isn’t it? It’s intimidating at the same time because you realize better exactly how much you don’t know, but at least it’s more than the sheep out there.