Global warming-man-made or not?

[Conza]

@Fluery

@Conza88

Regardless if it is or not, the solution stays the same.

Private property.

Could you or somebody else elaborate? It seems to me that it would be rather difficult to tell who released what c02 and all seems very hazy in general.

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[ViennaSausage]

The solution would be private property rights, where the rights of the individual and his/her property are protected. This does not necessarily mean carbon emissions, but not using stolen money (taxes) to create carbon emission.

[Orthogonal]

From the data I’ve seen, it appears to me that there is a much higher correlation to average global temperature with solar irradiance than with CO2 levels. This conclusion appears to make the most sense. This link has a lot of data

Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide - Global...

[Seph]

If anyone is interested, here is a short, but compelling video against the theory of man made global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

[Natalie]

@ViennaSausage

There is no doubt that the average temperatures have gone up over the last century:

Why do the scientists doubt this? Even Antarctica is actually not melting like it was supposed to.

@ViennaSausage

The problem is not green energy per se, but that government is getting on the green energy bandwagon. Any form of energy will have its disadvantages, regardless if “green” or not. If green energy is truly viable, it needs to work itself out in the marketplace. However, regulations on both the green side and the dirty side of energy hinder true competition to occur.

I agree. The environmental regulations is the primary reason for on-going destruction of the American industrial base. Of course, that’s just must be their true goal.

[ViennaSausage]

@Natalie

Why do the scientists doubt this? Even Antarctica is actually not melting like it was supposed to.

The key word is average.
Also, take a look at several posts above, which describes global warming, but not necessarily AGW.

@Natalie

I agree. The environmental regulations is the primary reason for on-going destruction of the American industrial base. Of course, that’s just must be their true goal.

It’s not necessarily environmental regulation, just regulation in general. If we are going to move towards true deregulation, we cannot chastise environmentalists. Austro-libertarianism has its own method to protect the environment, by protecting property rights.

[Poptech]

The climate always changes but to determine if there is global warming you need to put things in perspective. Since the Little Ice Age we have had a warming trend.

A 2000-year global temperature reconstruction based on non-treering proxies (PDF)
(Energy & Environment, Volume 18, Numbers 7-8, pp. 1049-1058, December 2007)
- Craig Loehle

But that does not mean it was caused by man and as you can see it was warmer during the medieval warming period. The problem with the land based thermometer record is it started during a very cold period. The mild increase of 0.6C over the last hundred years is not that exciting when put in perspective.

However the land based record has other problems which are “man made”

Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable? (PDF) (Anthony Watts, AMS Certified Meteorologist)

Don’t Believe the Hype (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT)
Global-Warming Myth (Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology)
I Was On the Global Warming Gravy Train (David Evans, Ph.D. Carbon Accounting Modeller)
The Amazing Story Behind the Global Warming Scam (John Coleman, Founder of The Weather Channel)

Here are some excellent videos to watch.

20/20: Give Me a Break: Global Warming (Video) (8min)
****Bullshit! - Environmental Hysteria (Video) (29min)
Bullshit! - Being Green (Video) (29min)
****George Carlin - ‘Saving The Planet’ (Video) (8min)
****Unstoppable Solar Cycles (Video) (10min)