Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

[SamuelRSmith]

I think I just did a pretty effective shut down of somebody’s anti-capitalism rant.

Fuck taxes! Love ya Belgium .

Doubt he’ll even read it, though.

[SkepticalMetal]

Samuel Smith,

That is beast.

[Torsten]

And now he is cornered. Why? Because the real reason we want to own weapons is to protect ourselves from an oppresive government. This is the number one reason. Historically, you have the proof (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il in North Korea). In fact, it is no argument that the most numerous, villanous murders have been carried out by the hands of an armed government on its unarmed populace.

Careful on this one. It was easier to obtain Weapons under Hitler, then under the regime of the Weimar Republic and after the second world war. It’s just that they of course disarmed any hostile populations. Which is what any occupational force does actually do including the Western Allies.

That’s perhaps something to hammer about, that disarming population indicates hostility by government.

[MMMark]

Mon. 12/12/17 21:52 EST
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@SkepticalMetal

[/url]HELP PLZ

Gun ownership around the world

and

Save the Children:

When I talk with people who want more gun control and claim that they themselves would never own a firearm, I sometimes ask if they would be willing to put a sign in their front yard saying “This home is a gun-free zone.” Generally, I get silence and a stunned look; occasionally, I get an outright refusal. No one wants to put such a sign in front of their home; they know intuitively that such a sign marks them as an easy target for thieves, rapists, or murderers.

See also

Victim disarmament

and

Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!

Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!

Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!

[MMMark]

Wed. 12/12/19 01:46 EST
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Piers Morgan debating GOA Larry Pratt.

[SkepticalMetal]

@ Samuel Smith

When you talked in your shut down about the guy basically wanting to have himself in charge, I was immediately reminded of something Mises said that I read in Marxism Unmasked:

“…the worst thing that can happen to a socialist is to have his country ruled by socialists who are not his friends.”

[Jon_Irenicus]

Is that Piers Morgan fellow always so… well, rude, stupid and abrassive? Also, lol

[Wibee]

You are all fighting the wrong battle. You are all pro-gun control. You would be idiots not to be. You are anti-government. Don’t attack gun control. Criticize the government. If man bans guns on his private property, you would all jump to his defense. You would defend gun ownership rules in a HOA.

Same with airport scanners. You would be pro scanners if Southwest airlines implemented the security system, but because the TSA does it, it is bad.

What I mean by being pro, I mean respecting property rights. The answer to every question is property rights.

[thetabularasa]

@Wibee

You are all fighting the wrong battle. You are all pro-gun control. You would be idiots not to be. You are anti-government. Don’t attack gun control. Criticize the government. If man bans guns on his private property, you would all jump to his defense. You would defend gun ownership rules in a HOA.

Same with airport scanners. You would be pro scanners if Southwest airlines implemented the security system, but because the TSA does it, it is bad.

What I mean by being pro, I mean respecting property rights. The answer to every question is property rights.

Good point.

[HabbaBabba]

Not really. To whom the appeal for more allowance of personal security would differ is all. I don’t stop trying to talk to and convince people just because they own their own property.