how can a hard currency money supply keep up with population growth and demand?

No fear in a lions den when you are right, :slight_smile:

Its not a trace gas anymore, the levels are getting to the point where, they are going to become dangerous for us all, that is the only reasson I am discussing what I am discussing, my thoughts are the only way out of it. EPA deemed CO2 a health hazarad last year, senator slips and says its getting us sick, to print money is the only way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, at the same time you got population grow, and trying to grow the economy. You will never decrease prices with a growing population, as the population goes up, the demand goes up, if you were able to decrease prices, a gallon of milk will still cost what a Dime?

Have you ever listed prices of all products, told your people if you see a product go above this price, don’t buy it for the sake of the countrys inflation. Is that price control, or is that leaving it up to the choice of the people and their destiny.

Human life is not a game, but the players at the top who make the rules, see it at a game

this country passes rules and regulations everyday, changing the game, and the players, you can create anything out of your situation that you want, you just need to be able to implement the changes you make in the right fashion and have the people behind you. the planet was flat once remember…

Its not a trace gas anymore, the levels are getting to the point where, they are going to become dangerous for us all, that is the only reasson I am discussing what I am discussing, my thoughts are the only way out of it. EPA deemed CO2 a health hazarad last year, senator slips and says its getting us sick, to print money is the only way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, at the same time you got population grow, and trying to grow the economy. You will never decrease prices with a growing population, as the population goes up, the demand goes up, if you were able to decrease prices, a gallon of milk will still cost what a Dime?

I lol’ed.

Its not about the number of goods increasing its about the number of people increasing. as people increase, you create demand, if there is not enough cash in the system, you cause a cash crunch unless you decrease prices in the system or people starve to death. Look at the national debt compared to the population growth, its that simple.

there was a question about increasing money supply, and this is the reason the money has been printed to match the population growth, its that simple, common sense, but the greater minds what to take simplicity out of it, to keep it in their favor, becuase, the people have the vote and can use that vote to take it out of their favor

I challenge you to a duel…unguard..my good friend…:slight_smile:

be back in a week my good friends:)

Hipple - why don’t we have a contest where I breathe as much CO2 as possible, and you breathe as much CO as possible?

Because then the rest of us wouldn’t have to watch you fill up our forum with your manic attention-starved paranoia and insistence on repeating flawed logic.

Hippledipple >>unless you decrease prices in the system

lol. exactly!

“”““Population growth indeed leads to increased demand. Luckily hard currency can partially be replaced by credit money which is more elastic and can keep up with changes in demand better.””“”

what does elastic have to do with anything???

how would a hard currency not keep up with a change in a demand???

would barter start to creep in when a hard currency didnt keep up??? how do you when it doesnt???

do you demand things now that you dont have currecny or credit to keep up with/???

and what do you do about it??

I callin you the milkman thats behind schedule - all in fun…:)…cause your stuff aint nothing but sour cream cheese…

Its simple man, if your population grows, you have to print money to keep up with the demand, or drop prices. Now, you take in human behavior and everybody wants a raise, so to drop prices will not fly. And if prices dropped, it is the same thing as printing money, no different supermonetaryfly. Secondly, if you want to back your currency, the only main thing that is going to back that currency is the amount of work one is willing to do, inorder to trade for the other good, that is the true working of the system. I will give you this for that, because I see how much you had to do to produce that, so fair exchange no robbery. This is the reason, the dollar will never fail because the US military forces, work 24 seven, protecting the world, and the world sees the work they do. I am not condoning wars, of which, I believe, negotiations without special interests, and the art of dialectics can end all wars. But we are currently in the evolution stages of mans behavior tracks, and I just might be here to change that, or maybe give it a bit of a bump. There’s one thing to that how ever, if they people in charge keep playing the shell game of borrowing money, instead of educating the people of the facts, it will drive down the dollars value.

Here’s a question I ask you, if you invent something out of thin air, creating work, and introduce it into the economy, without allowing for expansion of the currency for that product. Where is the money going to come from, inorder to pay for it, without decreasing the demand for the other products in the system. Money is not infinity divisible, zero is zero, be the hero not the zero, when you understand human behavior and the concept of everybody wants a raise. Inflation is nothing more than two guys standing next to each other as the two oranges they want to trade keep getting bigger as they each try to keep up with each other.

Here’s one more, if you back currency with something, how do you get the something, without slavery? Gold does not back currency, work backs work, which backs currency. What came first, the currency or the backing, and was the backing work for work.

Now, to really school you, what would happen, if money was printed and introduced into the economy, under the dark shadows of midnight while the pumpkin showed up, and nobody ever knew that it was introduced, or printed. What would this hoax term of inflation, do?

Hippledipple jumps up and down, with a cucumber, shakin his head…:::slight_smile:

and remember, those two oranges they are trying to trade to each other, are just two bigger oranges, with the same value and have the same calorie/sugar content as twenty years ago, well, maybe with the over farming, the nutritional value may be different but they are still both equal in value, and always have been, its just an ego trip that each one, thinks they are makin more money.

As money becomes more scarce relative to the number of demanders and the products offered in exchange for money the value of money rises. Theoretically this could proceed to the point where gold was so expensive it was impractical to actually carry it (indeed, this point has probably been reached); but in that case you just handle it through certificates and checking accounts.

“Now, you take in human behavior and everybody wants a raise, so to drop prices will not fly.”

You gotta think outside the game, bra.

I think the main point is that money is never neutral, short or long run. Why a fixed money supply is necessary to avoid malinvestment I have never met a convincing explanation.

Why a fixed money supply is necessary to avoid malinvestment I have never met a convincing explanation.

I’ve never seen that asserted…

Nielso: “We don’t have a demand for money, we have a demand for goods and services.”

Nielso, money is not merely a “veil.” Money has its own demand.

Mises, Human Action, 17.3:

“Others maintained that one should not speak of the demand for and supply of money because the aims of those demanding money differ from the aims of those demanding vendible commodities. Commodities, they say, are demanded ultimately for consumption, while money is demanded in order to be given away in further acts of exchange. This objection is no less invalid. The use which people make of a medium of exchange consists eventually in its being given away. But first of all they are eager to accumulate a certain amount of it in order to be ready for the moment in which a purchase may be accomplished. Precisely because people do not want to provide for their own needs right at the instant at which they give away the goods and services they themselves bring to the market, precisely because they want to wait or are forced to wait until propitious conditions for buying appear, they barter not directly but indirectly through the interposition of a medium of exchange. The fact that money is not worn out by the use one makes of it and that it can render its services practically for an unlimited length of time is an important factor in the configuration of its supply. But it does not alter the fact that the appraisement of money is to be explained in the same way as the appraisement of all other goods: by the demand on the part of those who are eager to acquire a definite quantity of it.”