I am the 99%

Don’t worry, I feel so bad for you too.

If you expect this to change my attitude in any way, you’re wrong. You can’t intimidate me, because I won’t let you. I don’t even care whether you recognize or accept this - it makes no difference to me either way.

What do you call “predatory loans”?

That “may be” the case. Riiight.

You should already know what my position is. You already know I oppose the institution of the universally-limited-liability corporation. Do you really expect me to remind you of this all over the place? Unbelievable.

FYI, I don’t see this Occupy Wall Street thing as necessarily or entirely a bad thing. For someone who loves to accuse others of making lots of assumptions, you seem to make just as many - if not more! - yourself. For example, you seem to have assumed, based on my statements in this thread alone, that I have no problem at all with how big business exists and operates today. What, pray tell, is your evidence for that? Just because I’m not a fan of people who aren’t primarily self-reliant. That’s a non sequitur if I’ve ever seen one.

You see, it’s not an either-or thing. One can be against both big corrupt business, big corrupt government, and people who think and act as if the world/universe owes them a living (and lots of free goodies).

You’ll “grant” me that, hmm? How magnanimous of you.

If you prefer staying alive at any cost - to yourself or to others - then I don’t think it’s legitimate to complain about the onerous medical debt you’ve taken on for yourself. Nothing in this world is free. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, and no amount of complaining, protesting, agitating, etc. about it is going to change that fact.

With that said, a contract that is structured such that the borrower will always and necessarily be beholden to the lender (i.e. for his entire life) is what I’d call a “slave contract”. Furthermore, I’d consider it a type of fraud.

What exactly do you mean by “political action”? Plenty of Bolsheviks, for example, took political action which lead to their deaths (i.e. Stalin’s purges of the Old Bolsheviks). So don’t tell me that political action carries no risk of death with it.

On the other hand, I can certainly understand and sympathize with the fear of dying. As you should already know, I’m not entirely unsympathetic. But again, I hope you understand that it’s up to you and only you as to what you do. If you choose not to do something that you otherwise could do, I don’t think you can legitimately blame anyone but yourself.

Dude, come on. You don’t really believe that the rest of us are all such hermits. What are you trying to accomplish, exactly, in saying otherwise?

With that said, I guess I didn’t word my question very well. What I meant was, when does anyone ever have to get a loan? The answer is, no one ever has to. They choose to. Even if getting a loan would somehow save your life, you still choose to get it - or not.

I consider making demands of politicians to be completely counter-productive. Furthermore, I think people who do so are playing right into the politicians’ hands without realizing it.