If recessions are caused by expansion of the money supply...

World production is around 2,500 tons per year out of a total of 165,000 tons of above ground gold, a gold supply growth rate of 1.5% a year- and the production rate relative to total reserves is growing exponentially as superior capitalist production produces ever-more gold per year. If technology continues to advance thanks to dynamic market processes, we might see 5% or even, yes, 10% annual increases in the gold stock in a few decades.

This 1.5% annual increase, in addition to changes in circulation, is a pretty rapid rate of circulating gold supply growth compared to the “inflation” (Austrian definition) which supposedly caused the 19th century business cycle.

I’m not. Your own link notes that the Keyensian analysis claims that higher interest rates increase the demand for money, implying lower interest rates reduce the demand for money.

This Keynesian position is obviously incorrect as it does not take into account the pure rate of interest, and hence when gold is used as money, lower interest rates increase the demand for money, especially when increased demand for money increases sales revenue.

I also noted that you tend to link to Mises articles without creating your own argument; I’d appreciate it if you were able to put it into your own words rather than rely on the (highly reputable, I’m sure) Austrian economists who write those.

Please prove that the production rate is necessarily (and always?) growing exponentially due to “superior capitalist production” (and please define that term while you’re at it). Your last sentence is just pure speculation - why should anyone take it seriously?

It might not; it’s just an extrapolation. It’s best for you to hope it doesn’t happen, though.

This is irrelevant anyway, because the amount of gold being mined does not necessarily reflect the amount of gold in circulation, which fluctuates dramatically.

Translation: “I agree that no one should take it seriously.” So why then did you write it in the first place?

By “in circulation”, you mean “being used as money”, right? If so, isn’t that what Clayton said earlier?

Because it’s even more of a problem if gold production becomes much higher under an efficient free market.

Yes, and it means that rapid money supply growth would still occur under a gold standard.

This seems to be a giant red herring thrown in the face of my post about how fractional-reserve banking can expand the (perceived) money supply vastly more than mining more gold or even printing more paper fiat currency. You seem to have (conveniently) ignored that post.

It does, huh? Explain how exactly.

This isn’t fractional reserve banking. This is just the amount of gold in circulation. You can’t “fractionally reserve” physical gold.

Because the amount of gold in circulation is constantly changing.

You don’t seem to understand what gave rise to the “financial panics” during the 19th century. It was mainly due to fractional-reserve banking. Note that this fractional-reserve banking went on in spite of there being a gold standard during that time.

That in itself in no way means that rapid money-supply growth would necessarily still occur under a gold standard.

That’s not the point. I’m saying that the amount of gold in circulation increases just as fast as any fiat currency over a credit cycle.

… And I’m saying it doesn’t.

Then you didn’t see the chart above.

I did. But you didn’t see my post above.

Your post talks about fractional reserve banking, not gold circulation.

Fractional-reserve banking is the cornerstone of any modern-day fiat-currency system.

I never disagreed with that. What will prevent the money supply (the amount of gold in circulation) from fluctuating under a gold standard?

Why must anything prevent the amount of gold in circulation from fluctuating under a gold standard?

So nothing? Okay, I’ll take that answer.

I didn’t answer your question - I rejected it. Furthermore, I attacked the foundation on which your question seemed to be based. Do I need to repeat what I asked? I’ll be happy to do so until you answer it.

Gold circulation fluctuates wildly, so it’s not clear what’s going to stop it.

Anyway, here’s some Swedish data. Sweden has had a business cycle since the 19th century.

http://www.riksbank.se/Upload/Dokument_riksbank/Monetar_hist/Moneysupply1871_2006.xls

During the period 1871-1895, base money grew 8%. This was a period of multiple recessions despite little growth in the currency supply. If less than 1% monetary base growth can trash an economy, bad news for gold.

So I guess you’re left with 100% reserve banking- not because it works, it’s probably a disaster in practice due to lack of overnight lending, but because there are hardly any examples of it in practice in an industrialized economy. Which requires fractional reserves banking to be illegal, and that’s a pretty statist form of financial regulation.

I also gotta point out that outlawing fractional reserve banking alone will not stop the growth of the money supply. There are many types of privately created money, such as financial derivatives and the M4, that don’t involve 100% backing. In order to really stop the growth of money creation it’s necessary to have some really broad restrictions on financial activities such as mortgage backed securities, credit default obligations, etc. It would require an Austrian version of Dodd Frank, except a thousand pages longer.