In case there was any doubt: Israel's story full of holes

They are no less irrational then the israeli state. Iran will not nuke Israel because then Israel will probably nuke Iran and maybe the entire middle east. Iran is getting a nuke to act as a deterrent against aggressive U.S and Israeli intervention in all its forms.

Yes. This is funny. It is never even bantered whether nations are acquiring nukes for defensive purposes. But of course, that’s why we have them.

But rulers with nuclear weapons and permanently on a war path should probably be a greater concern.

Take it easy on the Bill O’Reilly Factor. There is no evidence Iran is getting nukes. Unless you know something we don’t.

XD

I don’t profess to know anything about Iran’s nuclear capability that you don’t. I was merely pointing out what is likely to happen should Iran acquire Nuclear Weapons (imo).

So I take it Marko that you are quite concerned about the U.S and Israel?

The US is floating the idea of using tactical nukes against Iran and going on about how it is “not taking the nuclear option off the table”. I don’t think they are actually going to do it, but there is certainly a bigger possibility of the US throwing atomic bombs around than anyone else.

Agreed.

Lol, of course I’m biased. So what?

I know who the enemy is and I know that in war there are no rules, you’ve just gotta win.

I’m a trained Jiu Jitsu fighter, the first rule in a fight is don’t lose the second rule is win.

In this case, Hamas and Iran are the enemy. They must be defeated I don’t really give a damn how.

The rest of you guys can worry about right and wrong, I’ll worry about the rules of the game and what they say Israel and everyone else is allowed to do. In this case, Israel is allowed to stop and search ships outside of its waters and kill anyone who tries to stop them. Until someone with bigger authority than the US says otherwise, them’s the rules. The UN also has the authority to sanction Iran. Iran will probably refuse the sanctions at which point it’s entirely possible the UN Security Council will give the green light to attack Iran. I don’t really know yet.

“Btw, with regards to what is legal, wouldn’t it be more accurate for you to say, might makes right? Do you really care what is legal? What would be your verdict when law in one country is in conflict with another? I think you just happen to being using what is legal in this instance because you know you can’t justify what israel did on any other grounds.”

I have said might makes legal right, read the thread. Yes I do. Which country has more power? There is no other required justification. Moral justification is an afterthought. It’s the reason there’s a thread about dropping bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but the bombs got dropped anyways.

So… is winning “right”? Your-rules-of the-game is a semantic ploy to try and worm your way out of ethics.

Christ, you make me sick.

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No we’ve been over this before. [AD HOMINEM DELETED] He claims he’s not interested in justifying himself. Fine. But he just tried to. Its funny because he can’t do so without introducing moral vocabulary.

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So ignore me.

You can call me any names you want, it means very little to me. You can find me detestable, I don’t give a damn.

"Is winning “right?”

Winning is what matters.

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Yeah I think you guys need to stop taking what bloom says so personally. I have the complete opposite views on him, I don’t believe “might makes right” is the right thing to do for many reasons(since it makes things more dangerous for both sides involved). But I see where he’s coming from in that currently thats how the world has been operating for a long time in a lot of different places.

No reason to act like he’s gonna bust into your house and take all of your belongings with Jiu Jutsu or something.

he would if he could get away with it :slight_smile:

And i dont like that all this anti-bloom emotion derailed what I said initially…

No reason? Are you sure?

And even if he doesn’t, he’ll laugh and cheer on the one who does.

Yeah, we all see that point. It’s not under dispute. But the rest of us deplore it, while bloomj31 thinks it’s awesome.

[INSULT DELETED] Morality matters to people like us.