So you are for expanding our world police force and imposing our will across the world? Supporting more military spending does exactly that.
And you are also in favor of welfare, as long as Israel is getting the money?
Do you consider yourself a libertarian?
Libertarian for Life,
I support whatever the military people say is necessary, that’s why I’m glad to see Obama actually listening to his generals, he just can’t really afford to keep fighting because of all the bailouts and stimulus and what not.
Yes, I’m in favor of giving Israel whatever it needs to protect and sustain itself.
Yes, I consider myself a libertarian.
Dude, I want to be nice to you, but ARE YOU SERIOUS?
What if the “military people” say a draft is necessary? Would you then support a draft?
Do you believe that if a general says that it is ok, that that makes it ok?
Plenty of state hired economists also tell us that the stimulus bill is saving jobs, military generals are also state hired.
Never ever trust what anyone hired by the government says.
No, I wouldn’t support a draft. I suppose I should’ve qualified that statement by saying that whatever the military says it needs in terms of funds, I think we should give it to them. People are a different story.
You don’t have to be nice to me, and yes I support the military in terms of funding. If they need the money, I think we should get it for them. However, if you don’t want to give them a cent I don’t think you should have to. But I’d pay my taxes gladly if I knew it was all going to the military.
State economists tells us they need trillions of dollars, what is so fundamentally different when you put on a military outfit?
If I trust the general in question then yes, I’d follow his advice.
Yeah, but I don’t trust Paul Krugman and Robert Reich or Larry Summers or whomever else they’ve got.
I trust certain government officials and not others, it depends on the person in question. I don’t necessarily assume every single one of them is corrupt.
… you know that the military industrial complex is a huge special interest group. You don’t trust the banks you don’t trust the pharmaceuticals but you trust the military? Its the same government.
From the wiki article
"It is difficult to estimate the degree of dependence of the U.S. economy on its military and defense spending, but it is clearly enormous, and legislators fiercely resist defense cuts that affect their districts. In Washington State, an economist[citation needed] estimated in 2002 that in Western Washington 166,000 jobs, or about 15% of the workforce, depended directly or indirectly on military installations alone, not counting defense industries.
The Military budget of the United States for the 2009 fiscal year was $515.4 billion. Adding emergency discretionary spending and supplemental spending brings the sum to $651.2 billion.[11] This does not include many military-related items that are outside of the Defense Department budget. Overall the United States government is spending about $1 trillion annually on defense-related purposes.[12]"
i.e. its a huuuge special interest group! Government spends all this money and can’t even protect us from box-cutter wielding terrorists… what are we paying for? We get “failures of the imagination”, no exit strategies, mass murder, and state sponsored terrorism.
If people want to give their money to the government for bailouts and stimulus, they should be able to, I just don’t think that you or I should have to. You shouldn’t have to pay for anything if you don’t want to. But me personally, I trust the military more than I trust economists.
I know the military industrial complex is a special interest group. So is Israel. They’re just two I happen to agree with and would be willing to fund. I’ll say this again though: I don’t think you should have to if you don’t want to.
There are things I would like to post in response… but I respect Lilburne too much.
Yeah, and I’m asking why you trust the military more. Both are all paid for by the state and have special interests in which they lie to obtain more funds.
I already know that any reason I give you will probably be shot down as “sentimental” or “emotional” or “irrational” or “anecdotal” so I’ll just say that my position is pro-military for personal reasons and I understand that lots of people don’t feel as I do and I’m ok with that.
Would you support the military if they requested infinity dollars?
Lol, probably not.
I didn’t think so[:P]
So where do you draw the line?
I don’t really have enough information to be able to intelligently answer that question. I would have to do some research on military funding. Perhaps I will.
Simple, allow people to choose whether or not to pay them. Then politicians will only earn as much money as they have provided in services.