Sounds interesting. Can you recommend a starting point or some good reading?
Go to trade school. There are plenty of vocational skills in demand so long as you’re willing to follow the work. Technical analysis is superficially appealing and may even ‘work’ to the extent you happen to guess a trend rightly just before other market participants arrive at the same conclusion based on fundamental analysis. Otherwise it’s the modern equivalent of tea leaves and chicken entrails.
If you must day-trade (and I wouldn’t), read up on Benjamin Graham & David Dodd and commit their analysis to heart. Of course, when you do that you see that just about everything out there is hilariously overvalued thanks to the Fed.
Sure, you recommended taking a public sector job that includes violence on a forum with many radical libertarians. Like giving a kindergarten class candy!!!
That’s a copout for taking responsibility for ones own moral action. “Just following orders” falls into this vein of reasoning.
Look, I recognize that people are willing to kill other people. I’m not going to approve of it, but I understand people will make that choice. But let’s not pretend it is not what it really is.
“I think you should sign up for the military, they pay really well if you follow orders and don’t get killed or become suicidal. You will get a free ride in college and nice benefits. You might have to kill or torture, but that is part of the job.”
No, but it was bad advice in my opinion. Really bad. Help the kid stay alive, keep his soul, and become productive.
Very true. I didnt really think about it from that angle, but I felt comfortable enough to post because it seems like most here are fairly open minded. My purpose is not to provoke.
It can be a copout, if you believe that a public sector job or serving in the military is immoral in and of itself. I’m not sure it is any more immoral than what we all do on a daily basis. But as a member of one these organizations you can do horriblely immoral things that the rest of us are not guilty of. And that may be the diffrence that I see.
To be fair this may not be the most accurate description of military service; unless you choose a branch or profession will put at risk. There are branches and jobs within the military where you will never kill anybody. I understand that some feel that even though you dont pull the trigger you enable others to do so, and this in turn means you are a murder as well. But that reasoning gets a bit tricky. Where do we draw the line. If we trace it back far enough anyone who pays taxes is a murder.
I definitely understand your point of veiw. But he can do all of this and still have spent a few years in the service.
Except that the major difference is that taxpayers do not pay taxes voluntarily, whereas those that join the military do so voluntarily. Pretty big line there. One that Juan had to point out to me.
If it is not a secret how much cash had you put aside as your working capital?
Very true. But the effect is the same. Again the vast majority of jobs in the military do not require that you fight or kill and the vast majority of those in the military don’t. So I think the worst you could accuse most of them of is living off the government dime. I think the guilt of murder by association might be a bit of a strech. Maybe.
If you agree that what I said in response to libery student about being part of the system is a copout then this would have to be as well. (couldnt figure out how to quote the line)
Questions of a personal nature should be sent by PM. Generally, people don’t like to discuss their financial details publicly.
Just sayin, you will may receive an answer privately that you might not receive publicly.
“I think you should sign up for the military, they pay really well if you follow orders and don’t get killed or become suicidal. You will get a free ride in college and nice benefits. You might have to kill or torture, but that is part of the job.”
That sounds like North Korean-Communism. I also have a mental illness, so becoming suicidal is probably out of question, guess it aint for me.
THat isn’t very optimistic, the economy should recover naturally a year from now. I don’t think the damage done by Obama and the Bush Administration are going to be permanent.
It was just one of many options. Good luck with the job search.
Knowing that the military has a lot of tough bad boys, I’d probably become suicidal from it all since I’d likely be ridiculed, harassed, and outcasted.
You’re dreamin. This recesssion hasn’t even hit bottom yet.
Why?
You are talking as if they had put the foot off the gas pedal now and the recovery has started already. The economy has not even bottomed out jet.
It is not going to recover next year or anywhere near that because they continue to make more of a mess and because they have erected barriers to prevent it from recovering and are going to erect more.
The crisis does not need to be a long one for the likes of Germany, China or Japan, but the economic fate of the US looks increasingly more likely to end up resembling a typical corporatist basket case.
True dat. There are many ways to make money in the informal economy. Seasonal landscaping work (e.g. cutting grass, raking leaves, snowplowing, etc.). Many high-school level sports need referees. I am a soccer referee. Try to go to a local game and talk to refs about certification and the whole nine yards. And of course, there are always not-so-legal ways to earn money as well.
Something I miss from Spain is the easy employment you could find in the countryside. I’m sure it’s the same in the U.S., but the fact is that I’m guessing you go to school (high school or college) and so obviously migration isn’t your best choice. In Spain, farmers might pay you what seems like nothing (you’re lucky to get €5, most pay €3), but it’s enough for many college students to go to their home towns during vacation to work and earn some money, and it has kept the immigrants employed (the only people who really seem interested in working to live, since everybody else just receives welfare).
But, I’m sure there are “similar” forms of employment in the United States. As aforementioned, landscaping. During the summer pool cleaning was a lucrative job. Painting, if you have the patience and you have a steady hand (and some experience). You have to be somewhat imaginative.
Irrelevant. Just like killing someone that consents to it, results in death, so does killing someone that does not consent. The fact that death results in both cases is irrelevant. What is relevant is that in the one case the person wanted to die, and in the other the person did not want to die.
The same goes with signing up to join the military as opposed to paying taxes that pay for the military. People who pay taxes unwillingly (which I would guess would be everyone) are not nearly as responsible for the carnage as those who voluntarily sign up to work for the military.
How the hell is anyone supposed to want to find work in this Economy? People who don’t have access to forums such as this. Your everyday person will not be up to such a task if finding a job is not easy. There are no Economic solutions to this, politicians will not abide by us, and realize that Laissez-Faire is the way to a quick recovery.
Figure out what people want and find it for them.
You can always rob the local 7-11 too. Join up today kids, kill some some sand niggers and get free ride to college. Come on really, here.