Then enlighten me and try not to be so hostile when I’m simply trying to have a discussion.
(If your post wasn’t meant to be hostile then I apologize. It just came off that way to me.)
I personally laughed my ass off when he “deconstructed” the words “conservative libertarian”. I certainly didn’t see any real harm in it.
I don’t know, I can see pretty big differences between left and right.
Like what?
i doubt that has no plans for sheltering his 7 figure salary.
He deserves to be trashed. False right.
It’s not though, because it’s false left.
And those who hear libertarian, now make an easy illogical jump to “ayran”, think “right wing” - Hitler, Nazi’s etc.
Not productive for us at all.
What you will now see from the MSM
As is generally understood by the average person; the political paradigm is as follows - at the end of each “wing”:
Left wing: Communism / Stalinism / Marxism = international socialism
Right wing: Fascism / Nazism = national socialism
Literally 5 letters of difference. Libertarians are neither left or right wing. Even when you re-jig the paradigm, you’re never going to be able to recover in the minds of the masses - your attempt to re-define the terms “right wing” or “left wing”. As such, it needs to be rejected - and the blatantly obvious error / attempt to box people into socialism.
The normal response by the average voter is well, extremes are bad - very left wing is bad, very right wing is bad - so “middle of the road” socialism it is… because that’s the only options they think they have.
Conza88 wrote the following post at 03-21-2010 1:49 AM:
He deserves to be trashed. False right.
(“Clearly we just shouldn’t let people talk who disagree with us. That is the libertarian way.”)
It’s not though, because it’s false left.
(So the left should base whether or not they listen to him on his affiliations rather than what he says? Party politics at its finest, I daresay.)
And those who hear libertarian, now make an easy illogical jump to “ayran”, think “right wing” - Hitler, Nazi’s etc.
Not productive for us at all.
(Was it any more productive for that association to not exist? I mean, doesn’t the very fact of this word game mean you have a good reason to try and get more people to listen to your own perspectives? Or…or…and here’s an idea that never occurred to anyone, I’m sure…You could just pass a law saying no one can bad-mouth libertarians. Yes, that would be the way to handle this, clearly.)
What you will now see from the MSM
As is generally understood by the average person; the political paradigm is as follows - at the end of each “wing”:
Left wing: Communism / Stalinism / Marxism = international socialism
Right wing: Fascism / Nazism = national socialism
Literally 5 letters of difference. Libertarians are neither left or right wing. Even when you re-jig the paradigm, you’re never going to be able to recover in the minds of the masses - your attempt to re-define the terms “right wing” or “left wing”. As such, it needs to be rejected - and the blatantly obvious error / attempt to box people into socialism.
(Perhaps you should do something to prevent that. I would recommend getting some sense into the minds of the masses and knock off all the pessimism. Do you have any idea how easy it is to get people talking about something?)
The normal response by the average voter is well, extremes are bad - very left wing is bad, very right wing is bad - so “middle of the road” socialism it is… because that’s the only options they think they have.
(Perhaps. Good thing we never have middle-of-the-road candidates to vote for, I guess, since I’m sure both sides would just flock to that fella. I don’t see how this description holds up when the party definitions are always changing…)
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Clearly this is a strawman & non sequitur.
You clearly haven’t read the thread I linked below, nor understand the tactics used by the power elite, via the fourth estate & intellectual whores to bamboozle the public.
You missed the point - and you need to work on your sarcasm. Or did I miss something?
Perhaps I am. Do you?
You don’t see, because you didn’t understand. The paradigm hasn’t shifted at all. Both parties are fulfilling their goals. One (Democrats) explicitly represents the welfare state, the other (Republicans) the warfare state. In essence, the president and party always do both. Growth in the state, keeps on keeping on.
I think this thread has gotten out of hand.
Look, I’m not saying Stewart is some champion of late-night television or that he should be praised. I know he falsely plays both sides of the left-right spectrum. However, my original point was that despite Stewart’s skit that trashed Glenn Beck being absolutely hilarious, the two LRC bloggers (and apparently some people on this very forum) completely missed the point of the skit and took it far too seriously.
Why does every bit of political satire have to be brought down to a level of “oh well that wasn’t funny because, see, that guy is actually a shill for the establishment?”
You are a libertarian. Stewart just called you an anti-semite. Is that funny?
I’m a libertarian (a liberal). I’m also a Jew. Stewart just called me an anti-semite. Is that funny? Or is that just insulting?
LRC people got it right this time, I think.
Jon Stewart was not promoting, or even slyly suggesting, that libertarianism can be associated with Aryanism. He wasn’t even making fun of libertarianism at all. He was making the point that Beck using word free-association to link ALL social democrats with what are considered the most extreme left-wing ideologies is just as ridiculous as linking libertarianism with the what are considered the most extreme right-wing ideologies. If anything, in basing his joke on the ridiculousness of associating libertarianism with extreme ideologies, he’s implicitly endorsing the reasonableness/moderateness of libertarianism.
Did he call me an anti-semite on a personal level or over his satirical television show? There’s quite a difference.
Oh come on. By equating libertarian and aryan, he obviously wanted to make the point that Beck’s “methods” and illustrations are completely ridiculous and don’t prove a damn thing. It’s kind of what SouthPark did with the Kill Smurfs thingy.
Libertarian = Aryan
Aryan = Iranian
Iranians put a fatwa out on Salman Rushdie
Salman Rushdie is an anagram of Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh is fat
Fat people need health care coverage
Do you see where this is going, America? These people are taking over your country by the hour. Their Islamofascism and hatred for you is out of control. We’ve never been this divided, America.
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Does anyone here remember 9/11?
Well done, sir.
Libertarians are aryan? Someone better tell Walter Block.
+1
I thought this was pretty obvious, really.
Awesome. Bonus points for knowing Aryan = Iranian, even bigger bonus points for enlightening me on the Salman Rushdie anagram