I’m an Audiophile-Libertarian. I seek to have good audio equipment YET I also support a free market.
lol, I am a nonaudiophile-libertarian who supports the free market. This makes us incompatible and you absolutely wrong.
An-cap for example.
I have already stated my distrust for this word:
the whole thing seems so vague… Ok so I am a market anarchist/anti-statist and am not racist or sexist, support the labour movement so far as it is volantary, recognise that income inequality would be reduced on a free market and that alot of the super large firms and large amounts of wealth (when I say wealth I meen a share of the total wealth) are protected by government and would not occure on a true market. am I a left libertarian?
Nah, that’s just libertarian; centrism.
Tho some here would disagree with you that free markets would equalize incomes
<~~ Myself included
It won’t equalize incomes, and no rational person would want that. One good thing about Ayn Rand, is that she very carefully laid out communism for what it was, and exposed the absolute lunacy of the “we’re all equal” mentality.
The only kind of equality I support is moral/ethical equality. I think this is the original “leftist” concept of “equality”, by the way.
I said that income inequality would bereduced due to things like IP not existing, not that it would bring about communism or wether it would be a good thing.
I personally think its quite incorrect to describe left anarchists as being vague about their beliefs. Personally, I’ve found that any one of them can find some string of 20 words, arranged into an all too particular order to describe their belief system. For example, one might describe themselves as a “Left Rothbardian Quasi - Egalitarian Anarchist with some Adjectives” (who are currently in an intellectual feud with the Quasi Rothbardian Left Egalitarian Anarchist with few Adjectives) . Left Rothbardians are like Rothbardians, only more sophisticated, cultured, and kinder hearted. They’re likely to found sitting cross legged in an obscure coffee shop, trying a new brand of coffee made by one legged workers in an unheard of region of Papau New Guinea. Meanwhile discussing workers plights, their intention to speak Latin for the next year as part of their self enrichment and their voluntary vow of celibacy as an extension of their strict veganism. They will do this in soft tones, almost hushed so they can appreciate the music made from sounds of people smoking in the background.
You conservatives crack me up
I favour that too.In a sense I see it leading to other kinds of equality.
It won’t equalize incomes, and no rational person would want that.
A surprsingly tough mentality to combat. You think this would be one of the 1st myths to get debunked. We can not concern ourselves with social status, only wealth maximization, how wealth is created and destroyed, and point out that without markets there is no civilization.
bargaining power is distorted by regulations and different parties get screwed depending on the situation, generally I would say it that labour is being exploited more on average but companies (especially small buissiness) can get a bad deal when it comes to state sponsored unions.
I would say the biggest failing of anarcho-capitalism is the name. but other than that can’t see how “anarcho capitalism” could go wrong, by which I meen whatever emerges out of the market will be more complex and fair than any other system, but “anarcho-capitalists” are often a bit short sighted and occasionly don’t recognise the complexity of market law.
Sorry, never read any of those guys I am kind of new to economics and political theory, but I do intend to read some carson to broaden my exposure to economic and political ideas after I finish the main austrian stuff.
sorry for the rambly response and for any spelling
So much irony, can’t resist…lmfao, Scott did you really just call us conservatives? I’m gonna go blaspheme and break some laws.
Left Rothbardians: Kinda like regular Rothbardians except they are shameful of the connotations that “capitalism” bring, so they distinguish themselves with superficial labels.
I must say, when I abandoned being a leftist for being laissefaire, I only did it because I saw laissefaire as having all the qualities that I was looking for in socialism, that it could not provide:
Freedom from the government, indiscrimination, realistic, working and workable, open to everyone, benefits everyone and free in every aspect.
You can’t know that without claiming prescience.
Non sequitur.
Prove this claim.
You know exactly of which I speak. Income equality is only possible where effort and results are equal. In a world where effort and results are valued equally, you cannot have economic calculation, you cannot have trade. You can’t even begin to make claims about something being good or bad, because it just is.
Of course, your understanding, as demonstrated here over and again, is so shallow and confused, it is unlikely you can grasp this, because as Esuric pointed out, most left libs are economically ignorant, and quite happily so. Learning economics would require thinking in a disciplined logical manner, and accepting facts that may conflict with emotional narratives and in turn may stimulate self-actualization.
The worst thing that can happen to the left is when leftists is start thinking..
*So your ok with some in their mansion and some homeless(the homeless not wanting such a state of affairs and not purposely bringing it about.) In anycase massive disparties in wealth are only due to statism.*
Correction; Statism is only due to massive disparities in wealth.
Very Very Few left-libs hold “we’re all equal” in the most absolute sense of we’re all the same in very single way.It would be wrong to say all belief in equality is belief we’re all equal in every single way.That’s a straw man.There’s many kinds of equality.
OMG Thank you! If I have to explain this to someone one more time, I’ll rip my teeth out w my bear hands!
The worst thing that can happen to the left is when leftists is start thinking..
The irony is strong with this one