Raimondo and left-/right- libertarianism

So Giles and Stranger are left-libertarians? What happens if someone was a microsecessionist minarchist?

Now does that include people who supported Ron Paul, but had no pretensions that Ron Paul would be elected? Would you deny that Ron Paul has been the greatest recruiting method for libertarians in a generation or more?

Again, this definition is so vague and so different from the way people who are NOT LLs use the term, I think the term is practically useless.

I never even knew there was such a thing as left-libertarians until they started distancing themselves from me.

Well, I never knew that libertarianism was conservatism (or vice-versa ?) until Giles informed me.

I don’t know about Stranger. Giles is a feudalist. He has proclaimed that he is not a radical libertarian. I don’t think he is.

A left-libertarian cannot be a statist. That would be a contradiction in terms. The term “left-libertarian” was created to distinguish anarchists from the minarchist, “big-L” political Libertarians in the first place, as I understand it from Konkin’s writings.

Possibly, but not necessarily. Clarification below:

No, I would not. In fact, I supported him for that very purpose, even as I opposed the idea of a libertarian politician on principle. I see people like him as an educational tool.

People who are not LL’s use the term as a perjorative to describe people who disagree with them. The actual meaning of the term is useful because it encompasses the whole body of anarchist libertarians who reject political action as a legitimate means of achieving their goals.

What could be more radical than voluntary feudalism?

There are lots of non-left anti-state libertarians. That definition is a fail.

Nonsense. LL’s spend a lot of time complaining about everyone else. Do you know how ignorant it is to call someone “vulgar” for their beliefs, when you’re alredy an anti-statist and for voluntarism? I’ll tell you. It’s really ignorant. And that is what LLs do to people within their own sphere who are not “perfect” by their own sliding scale.

Nonsense. Most of us here hold those sentiments, and most of those people again, do not call themselves LL. Oh, but we’re vulgar because even though we are apolitical and don’t support the state, LLs like Carson and Long like to perpetuate the myth that we believe WalMart is a product of the free market.

BDSM.

You mean what we have now?

ba dum bum

I am a radical libertarian, in fact, more radical than most here. Since, the society I envision is more radical than that imagined by most here.

Wait. Radical doesn’t mean deranged.

Raimondo’s good because his word is the truth and he is an excellent writer. Nothing to do with radicalism or conservatism.

Bigotry (in the general sense of circular reasoning or polylogism) and novelty are not virtues.