Sex Offenders Get Life in Prison, Even after their sentence ends.

[MMMark]

Thurs. 10/05/20 10:50 EDt
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@MMMark

[/url]What do you mean by “make it so”?[url=Sex Offenders Get Life in Prison, Even after their sentence ends. - #82 by bloomj31]

@bloomj31

[/url]I cannot give the order and have it followed by the cops. I don’t have the authority to give the order.

Precisely…and this is one important difference between the state’s coercive thugs and private thugs.

@MMMark

But you need neither “the power to enforce this edict” nor any law at all to kill.

@bloomj31

To kill with impunity I do.

Precisely…and it is morality, i.e., the popular belief that what you are doing is justified, that grants you that impunity. As you said,

@bloomj31

If people were truly afraid of libertarians, it would seem worth it to kill all of you…

@MMMark

If compliance is a measure of practical significance then surely such a law would be considered a failure.

@bloomj31

Only if I failed to kill all of you. But if I managed it, it would be a success.

We’re not communicating here, for some reason. To me, “compliance” means people obey your law, which means that you wouldn’t have to kill anyone. If you managed to kill everyone, then your law would, obviously, be a 100% failure, because there had been 0% compliance. It would no longer be a law, only mass murder.

@MMMark

I suppose my point is that it is morality that differentiates law from coercion.

@bloomj31

Well, it’s moral justifications that make people feel ok about being coerced.

This is a contradiction. By definition, people don’t “feel ok about being coerced.” That’s not what coercion is. That’s like saying “people feel ok about something they don’t feel ok about.”

@bloomj31

But law is coercion. It’s telling people what to do and what not to do.

As a statement about the way things are, I agree with you, for the most part. But clearly, we are here not just to talk about “the way things are,” but also to discuss the way things might be, could be, and possibly even should be. I invite you to participate.

@bloomj31

All you’ve pointed out is that reality is spun in such a way as to make people feel comfortable. But the law is still based on power.

I’ve been trying to point out that, in my opinion, that power is “based on” morality, i.e., popular acceptance of power as morally justified. Without this, you’d have mass non-compliance and even outright defiance.

All of the state’s power rests ultimately on the popular belief that the state is good, or at the very least, inevitable.
To challenge this belief is to “strike the root.”
The ideological revolution is also the most radical.