Wait, a system that steals money ‘right now’ to pay for a project that has a future usefulness is somehow more moral than a system that steals money ‘right now’ to pay out some benefits that were ‘purchased’ in the past?
What essential freedom of movement?
You only have the freedom to move where you are invited or where you are the legal owner of the property. Other than that you would be violating somebody else’s rights.
Non-government ownership of the roads wouldn’t change this, I suppose you would also claim a right of movement across a private toll road as well?
So it’s just a matter of the amount of effort it takes then?
How much effort does it take to go to one of them fancy state colleges?
The only real difference is they see robbing people in the present, essentially at gunpoint, to provide you with an education as an investment in their ability to rob even more from you in the future.
I’m just trying to determine how one becomes a hypocrite for using SS as opposed to all the other government programs that get forced down our throats.
Even where nearly every college/university in a country is state-owned, or where all universities, regardless of being private or not, are state-subsidized?
Not entirely true - I live in a subdivision where the roads are a joint ownership of all lot owners. Heck the government doesn’t even WANT our roads - it would cost them too much to maintain! The sad thing is that most owners here are so warped by thinking of all roads being maintained by ‘someone/thing else’ that they don’t even take care of their OWN roads.
JC, it seems to me that your gripe, and a legitmate one too, is that YOU are being extorted from. Couldn’t agree with you more! I’m Ataxist myself and long ago understood that taxing is theft period. Yet you seem to want to convince us, your fellow extortees, that WE are the ones taking from YOU?!? Do you honestly think that if we stopped accepting benefits that the government would stop collecting?!? What a laughable thought! So please allow us to work in our own little, albeit twisted to some, ways to ‘combat’ this ponzi scam as best we can. If free fruits were being handed out to all comers, would you let those rot because you felt they were ‘stolen’ from the growers? Lots of different ways to see this problem, and I think only lots of different ‘answers’ are needed to solve it too.
I’ll bet that that age was selected when the average life expectancy was around 60! And if you really want to know why I ‘retired’ early (in 50s!), its because I came to an economic decision - it COST me more to ‘work’ than I gained in MY life. Besides we long ago learned to live well with very LITTLE actual money so could and did. I too object to being penalized for being productive so now my ‘productive’ efforts go as directly towards MY life as I can manage. Collecting SS is one of the little ‘got ya’ joys that I get out of government. And that isn’t from YOU, its more a statement of how the mass belief of the fantasy of government is supported by the sheeple that govenment fleeces. Don’t want to be a sheeple? Find a way to NOT be one.