Stefan Molyneux

Okay, sorry Stef, I should have just googled it in the first place. I see that you do use the term “deFOO”. In fact Google registers 1,420 results for the word “deFOO” on your site alone. One of them struck me as kind of interesting: an “Annual deFOO Christmas and New Year Party” in Cancun, Mexico, organized by three of your “Philosopher Kings”.

Now, since most of your listeners are young, many of them must not have much of a family besides their “family of origin”. So when they deFOO, whether for good or for bad, that must leave a rather big hole in their lives in terms of familiar human contact, no?

So, whether you intend it or not, isn’t it likely, just judging from the facts of the situation, that many such people would want to fill that hole with something else?

And what better thing to fill that hole than the community which helped them deFOO in the first place? (One of your Philosopher Kings has waxed rhapsodic about, “Finding this new home, and this new family”.) Especially when that community has regular cookouts and retreats to Mexico?

And I happened to notice that almost all the people in planning to go to the deFOO retreat were either “Philosopher Kings” or “Diamond Donors”. I remember hearing somewhere that a Philosopher King badge runs about $50 a month (plus an initiation fee). How much do Diamand Donors chip in?

Again whether or not you intend it to turn out this way, there does seem to be a pretty likely chain of events that would tend to accompany any FDR-aided deFOO:

Molyneux → deFOO → Acute need for familiar human contact → FDR Involvement → FDR Donations → Molyneux

And you can’t blame some libertarians, at least those of the more rigorous and less “true believer” stripe, for taking a look at the chain above and closing the loop in their minds.

I’m not saying you promote deFOO because of the loop; I’m not even saying you’re aware of it. I’m saying that it’s there, and that, to the outside observer, it can look awfully suspicious.*

So, either (1.) break the loop for us, or (2.) convince us that it’s just an embarrassing, but meaningless, coincidence that you just happen to benefit greatly from the family break-ups you promote.

*especially when you go so far as responding to a woman complaining about birthday cards and Valentine’s Day cards sent to her kids from their grandparents by writing, “Don’t engage. Throw the letters out unopened, that’s my advice…” The same woman informed you that, "My 12 yr old daughter is a freedomainian listener and advocate; she thinks they [her grandparents] are evil, and is glad they are gone." To this you respond,“Magnificent! Your whole family tree is now growing towards the sun! Is your daughter’s wisdom causing any problems with her friends?”