The Concept of "Earning" is a Big Lie.

[Meistro]

can you condense all your commie nonsense into like 15 words or less? It’s not that I’m against hearing what you have to say, per se, but I don’t really want to invest a serious amount of time to parse it all. Can I get the coles notes version of your rant?

[shackleford]

He fails to realize that by creating wealth and satisfying the needs of others the business owner is satisfying his own needs. He seems to not understand that in a transaction everybody wins. Everybody is better off. Maybe he is confusing free market capitalism with crony government (otherwise known as the misnomer of “crony capitalism”).

[gravyten577]

Irwin Schiff in his book “The Biggest Con: How the Government is Fleecing you” made a good point that even in a socialist society it would still be capitalism because capital is needed to produce things.

Think about it. In a socialist society the central planning board would be striving for capital accumulation but there would be a total disconect with the subjective value judgements of the consumers.

[Meistro]

It needn’t necessarily be a total disconnect from the demands of consumers - although this would no doubt frequently occur as the consumption preferences of bureaucrats were deemed more important than the consumption preferences of the proletariat at large - because these demands are displayed through choice. An increase in demand for, flour, is shown in the depletion of flour from the common store. The problem lies in capital goods industries.

[gotlucky]

@Thescout

A critical thought for Clay, gotlucky, Malachi, and others. Ours is most certainly not a system of beautifully paternalistic plutocracy, geared for benevolent “job creators” looking out for the welfare of the workers whom they use and commodify. Rather, it’s quite distinctly a system oriented toward profiteering and the empowerment of capitalists at the expense of the rest of us. Rudely strip away all of the free-marketarian rhetoric and ideology that you use to rationalize your support for capitalism and this is indeed essentially what you’re defending, a system that’s fundamentally and entirely about capital accumulation and capitalist supremacy, and whose crass attitude is democratic and humanistic values be damned. Well, this is precisely the “commie” rudeness that I’m guilty of, and precisely why you find me to be such an annoying bete noire. Be this as it may, and despite your open detestation of my constructive efforts at sharing a critical point of view, my hope for you-all is that one day your intellectual and life journey will take you to an honest awareness of the unlovely nature of capitalism, and of the subconscious psychological motives behind the staunchness of your support for such a thoroughly unlovely system. Mm-hmm, as I’m fond of saying, hope springs eternal, and I will always continue to sincerely hope for your enlightenment, regardless of how much petty ad hominem invective you spew in my direction.

Okay, I’ll just repost Sowell’s questions and patiently wait for your retort:

Those who believe that “basic necessities” should belong to people as a matter of right ignore the implication – that people are to work only for amenities, frivolities, and ego. Will that mean more work or less work? And if less, where are all those “basic necessities” coming from that the government is supposed to hand out?