This is just hysterical

[DanielMuffinburg]

@ladyattis

It’s sad the man is older than me, but shows the immaturity of a 16 y/o /b/tard.

I made a quip about him being an accountant and honesty concerning information (him deleting posts). But he deleting that post too. [:)]

[Spideynw]

@Daniel

I made a quip about him being an accountant and honesty concerning information (him deleting posts). But he deleting that post too.

He is obviously intellectually handicapped. He has deleted two posts I have tried making as well.

[ladyattis]

[Rooster]

@Praetyre

I’m guessing this guy is an adherent of Public Choice Theory, hence his reference to voluntary taxation.

What does that have to do with Public Choice Theory?

[Praetyre]

My bad.. read something a bit back that implied that public choice theory was a basis of many “taxation is voluntary arguments”. Wiki would seem to indicate it’s merely a study of political economy under rational actor models.

[FreedomIsYellow]

@Praetyre

The more and more I read of the United Kingdom, the more and more I start to think my preconceptions regarding it and it’s people are accurate.

Perfectly understandable, though there are libertarians here I can assure you!

[filc]

These comments of mine are “awating moderation”.

1. Your comment is awaiting moderation.

   I mean no disrespect to the poster however I feel obligated to comment. The poster of this article nakedly reveals a serious deficiency in understanding of basic economics. The argument is also highly opinion based and like all politicians assumes the masses agree with him. Fortunately for us opinions are rarely true and are often grandoise.

   The quote
   “But I stick to my point: a great deal of what we value most is provided by the state. ”
   It could be argued a 1000 ways otherwise on the huge fallacy’s of this statement alone but it summarizes the whole post best. Never mind the fact that what you value most is protected nicely under the legal monopoly of the state. Ignorance is bliss however and we will never actually know the true economic wealth we could have if such value’s were open in a free market.

   There is hope however for the poster but it will take a few years of studying/reading. They can start here.

   Economics in One Lesson

   Man Economy State

   Human Action

   Road to Surfdom

   Thats pretty much breaking the surface. Read a few of those then repost a reflection to see if your opinions have changed at all. Some of those books can be found online for free as well.

   Thanks

2. 
   filc

   July 9th, 2009 at 08:11 | #26
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   Your comment is awaiting moderation.

   @Richard Murphy

   Tax is not theft

   No offense again but yes it is. The definition of theft is the act of stealing ones property. Since taxes are not voluntary but forced and taken against the consent of a property owner it is a form of theft of private property.

   If the masses(majority) say kill all Jews for the better of man that doesn’t make it right. I think you would agree with me that the holocaust was down right evil. On a lesser level however your applying the same principle to theft of property. Don’t do that!

   You may want to review the definition here.
   theft

3. 
   filc

   July 9th, 2009 at 08:14 | #27
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   Your comment is awaiting moderation.

   @Richard Murphy

   You are abusing those who depend on taxation for their well being - as millions do - and which you would deny them

   And you are abusing those who do not depend on taxation for well being. I don’t think I have to say how many more of those types of people there are.

   Taxation also competes with altruism and philanthropy, you deter and discourage such acts.

[filc]

Here are my responses, which are pending moderation…

I mean no disrespect to the poster however I feel obligated to comment. The poster of this article nakedly reveals a serious deficiency in understanding of basic economics. The argument is also highly opinion based and like all politicians assumes the masses agree with him. Fortunately for us opinions are rarely true and are often grandoise.

The quote
“But I stick to my point: a great deal of what we value most is provided by the state. ”
It could be argued a 1000 ways otherwise on the huge fallacy’s of this statement alone but it summarizes the whole post best. Never mind the fact that what you value most is protected nicely under the legal monopoly of the state. Ignorance is bliss however and we will never actually know the true economic wealth we could have if such value’s were open in a free market.

There is hope however for the poster but it will take a few years of studying/reading. They can start here.

Economics in One Lesson

Man Economy State

Human Action

Road to Surfdom

Thats pretty much breaking the surface. Read a few of those then repost a reflection to see if your opinions have changed at all. Some of those books can be found online for free as well.

Thanks

Tax is not theft

No offense again but yes it is. The definition of theft is the act of stealing ones property. Since taxes are not voluntary but forced and taken against the consent of a property owner it is a form of theft of private property.

If the masses(majority) say kill all Jews for the better of man that doesn’t make it right. I think you would agree with me that the holocaust was down right evil. On a lesser level however your applying the same principle to theft of property. Don’t do that!

You may want to review the definition here.
theft (Link to theft on wiki)

You are abusing those who depend on taxation for their well being - as millions do - and which you would deny them

And you are abusing those who do not depend on taxation for well being. I don’t think I have to say how many more of those types of people there are.

Taxation also competes with altruism and philanthropy, you deter and discourage such acts.

[Charles_Anthony]

Just a note about comments held in queue: if your post contains multiple hyperlinks, it is automatically held in moderation until someone reviews it. Spammers commonly post a lot of advertizing links and thus, the forum is configured to double check all posts that have several links.

[Spideynw]

@Charles Anthony

Just a note about comments held in queue: if your post contains multiple hyperlinks, it is automatically held in moderation until someone reviews it. Spammers commonly post a lot of advertizing links and thus, the forum is configured to double check all posts that have several links.

Neither of my posts had any links, and it said awaiting moderation and eventually they were deleted. No, he is just scared of ideas that oppose his.

[Charles_Anthony]

I should have clarified: I was talking about the Mises.org forum moderation. There was a post in this thread that was held in moderation.

[filc]

@Charles Anthony

I should have clarified: I was talking about the Mises.org forum moderation. There was a post in this thread that was held in moderation.

It was my post hence my double post earlier. I got a bit confused because of it. Thanks for the clarification. Sorry for the double post!

For the record none of my posts got through on his blog. He only allows dim questions to leak through or ones that he does not understand.

This one is funny though

@Peter

Let’s just say: if you’re planning to get by on the state pension alone in your retirement, you’re in serious trouble. So for many, it can be safely ignored in every financial calcualation.

And Richards graceful response

@Richard

Peter

Which shows how out of touch you are

For millions that is all they are going to have to rely on

Richard

Lawl!

[DanielMuffinburg]

Here’s a comment I just posted. Let’s see what happens to it.

Richard, without the state welfare system, families would take care of “the aging population”. Do you know why Social Security came about? Because of the Great Depression. Why, you ask, did the Great Depression happen? Because Hoover and FDR intervened in the economy. Why did Hoover and FDR even consider intervening in the economy? Because the Fed created a bubble during the 1920s that eventually popped. Now, how did “the aging population” survive before Social Security? The family.

[FreedomIsYellow]

The man is so far gone … and he believes so much in his mystical “New Economics” which will save the world and make everyone equal.

Is he really so ignorant to the fallacies presented by the Marxes and Keynes of this world?