I’m speechless.
I was waiting for this to be posted on here or LRC; I saw it on YouTube last week. Moore, like the typical dolt, can’t tell the difference between fascism and capitalism. He also complains about bonuses to zombies like AIG, yet can’t seem to put two and two together and realize that the State, and not capitalism, is what made that possible. That trailer made me sick and I would not doubt if there is a viewing of the movie on my campus.
One silver lining is that he seems to be against bailouts.
A problem with idiots like Michael Moore is that when they say capitalism, they mean mercantilism, but then they make the non sequitur of arguing in favor of socialism.
Well of course he has no idea what he’s talking about, but the other silver lining is that this will help to discredit capitalism-bashing to everyone with a fully functional brain. The people who think his propaganda is true are beyond hope anyway.
I do find it hilarious how this is about “Capitalism” yet the trailer seems to focus mostly on government inverventionism and bailouts. That’s one seriously confused individual-- where is John Stossel when we need him?
Where is Michael Moore attacking the biggest proponent of Capitalism in Congress? Ron Paul?
OHHHHH WAIT, that would destroy the premise of the film.
Carry on…
Michael Moore is just one of the many red capes flown in front of the people to distract them from the real problems. I wouldn’t call him a “useful idiot” because he knows perfectly well what he’s doing and has made a nice little fortune out of it. He produces the kind of sanitized, apparatus-backed and harmless dissent European elegant leftists love so much because it makes them feel so superior to “Capitalist America”, the hated enemy that ruined the world (and that gave them their i-Phones, their Apple laptops, their godawful Crocs etc).
Conzaaaaaa I’ve been trying to contact you to find out where you obtained your avatar picture (would come in useful making fun of people on other forums), but I keep getting ignored! [:'(] Rats!
Hopefully this is a sign of the left getting much more bold and honest about their positions, instead of their usually very subtle effective fabian campaigns and propaganda they have been using. They are in absolute power now, they control the propaganda, they are the hip group, they have the hip charasmatic leader, and hopefully they are bold (and stupid) enough to be more open and honest in dialouge and policy. Micheal Moore, a hipster doofus poster boy for lefties, may be a “useful idiot” indeed; if he is part of some new trend of exposing the left for what it really is by their own insane words and actions. Hopefully the movie critics/ “daily show” types will praise this documentary to high heaven exposing themselves even more.
I’m also REALLY REALLY hoping for some heavy handed emotional pleas and obvious “sad sack” stories, and then him being praised as “cutting edge”, “witty”, and “intellectual” like every other one of his damned documentaries.
I don’t understand the attitude toward Moore here. This is a man who hates out government. Did anyone see Fahrenheit 9/11? He stood outside Capitol Hill and tried to sign up the children of congressmen into the service!
He watched his hometown gutted and tried to get answers on how it happened. What was he supposed to do, lie down and take it?
At least laugh with this movie. It may be the catalyst to bring about change.
Look, Hank Paulson wrote a note on a napkin asking for 2 times the military budget for the banks because (boo hoo) the banks made some errors and strangely thought asset prices only rise and never fall. It’s not like they hire economists or anything, so Paulson scored $700 large for the poor fellas, and BB kicked in $2 super-sized for starters. The banks took our money so they could lend it back to us… except the last part.
Something like that gets people mad, and it should be encouraged. Wall street is the most crime-infested cesspool on earth. It has purchased a more-than-willing government, and wrote is own legislation that allows the banking industry to operate completely opaque and enter into contracts that were not signed by the 3rd party, even though the 3rd party bore all the risks. You were the 3rd party.
Golden Sacks changed accounting methods 11 times in 2008. According to my calculations, that’s almost every month.
Ratings agencies gave AAA ratings on huge securitized pools of debt without ever seeing a single loan breakdown. How do you go from no info to AAA? Was it a mistake? A typo? There has to be a way to get them to describe very specifically the process in which AAA was listed next to all that garbage. After it hit the fan, Fitch finally got around to doing a sample of loans on one issue. They reported “a substantial amount of fraud.” Really!
Madoff was investigated 5 times. Since that case broke, the SEC has rehired some of the old lawyers who left there and went into glitzy private offices. Why would these lawyers give up their 7-figure incomes to go back to work at the SEC? Only a cynic would think it could be to run interference in the upcoming investigations. We already know what the report is going to say. Bla, bla, bla. They have a Word template they use called, “Crime Tsk Tsk..dot”
The number of crimes the banks have committed, crimes they are allowed to pay fines for, are so numerous, that any other company would be declared a habitual criminal offender against society, and shot dead. Citi has almost 10,000 subsidiaries, and 2000 of them are offshore. What? 1000 wasn’t enough? Citi has $45 billion of your money, and it was stolen. If you have a Citi ATM in your neighborhood, you live in a high-crime area.
I’m going to celebrate this movie. I’m a proud capitalist, and I play by the rules. I do this not because I’m particularly good, but because even the stupid part of me knows that everything suffers, and the system breaks when you don’t play by the rules. When you save a few dollars and put stuff in your dog food that makes little Cindy find her cuddly little puppy with foam coming out one end, and blood out the other, it’s time for your liberty to be denied. It was there, and now it has to be gone.
The banks have done for capitalism what Bush did for Democracy. Democracy is something parents scare their kids with now. “You mind me! Don’t you make me call America! They will bomb your little brown ass right into next week!”
Like Moore you miss the point , of course Henk Paulson is a schmutz, but that is not capitalism, Paulson gets all his money from the taxpayer. On the free market he would have to earn it. So to say that government’s were corrupt is correct but to blame capitalism is a bait and switch technique. it is dishonest.
No. You miss the point.
There have been many a wicked things done to turn a profit that didn’t need the help of any institution. Corporations go to great lengths to deny responsability for a mountain of dead bodies, or a patch of scorched earth. We are in an age where capitalism has institutionalized crime in the quest for growth. Call it what you want, but the roots in the quest for short-term gains using market mechanics.
Speaking of scorched earth, have heard about the “wildfires” in southern California? Yeah, those fires are on government-owned land and now the taxpayers have to pay to put them out.
Moore hates the government only because it is not as big as he would like.
Would you rather have those things done for a loss? At least they were efficient and didn’t waste scarce resources.[:)]
That’s not new. Marx was saying the same thing.
And that is where he made a huge mistake.
Did he? He became a famous writer and sold millions of books. We are still arguing about it today.