LS that’s not even funny. calm down
Well he did think that everything was water. Kind of a wacky theory in my mind.
So Socrates ideas and writings were only validated because he died?
Perhaps in homeschooling.
Ha ha wonderful retort. I’m going to make some ambiguous reference to a work about a creature not found in nature and if you don’t know what that means then obviously we can’t continue the debate.
You argue but you refuse to define your terms and your connections. That is pathetic.
Funny stuff.
Ok now I know I have devolved into a dream world.Usually Ryan tries to yell at me [:P]
Figures you find an ass-backward creature in Australia. Thanks for the correction Ryan.
I wonder what the moral of the story. So there’s a Black Swan - and?
I got it. He gave the term and the author. It’s a best selling book, and most of us with an interest in epistemology are familiar with Taleb’s ideas on the boundaries of knowledge.
I can see how epistemology is an issue for people who claim objective knowledge however. After all, when their ideas are purportedly grounded in facts, who wants to own up to the reality that there are unknown unknowns, and our so-called objectivity, is at best, conditional upon what we know right now, not the full breadth of what can be or will known?
L.S. that’s not an argument against being objective. That 's the very definition of what objective IS. It is conditional. Always has been.
He also was the first man to predict a solar eclipse, thus starting the human tradition of science, nor is Thales even that obscure of a figure.
The success of an idea is not just based upon its truth, or its falsity, but also in how much it inspires those who hold it.
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Hillarious! You have just fooled yourself into thinking that you can proclaim what nature can, and cannot be! Obviously non-existent in nature.
Well obviously this guy didn’t die for his ideas so according to Iam’s own logic, my not knowing him is not my fault.
‘With this as an entering wedge, libertarians are free to apply this axiom to all of human action, including, radically, to unions, taxes, and even government itself.’ - Walter Block
I took your advice and starting reading Block. However you seem to have ‘evolved’ past him.
if you deny the possibility of any objective knowledge you contradict yourself, performatively.
which is a neat-o trick. but wont win arguments.
so, i want to know whether all objective knowledge is being denied, or just knowledge in some particular fields of inquiry…
If Socrates’ ideas weren’t written down by Plato, his death would have served no purpose. It’s not his martyrdom that he is remembered for. His martyrdom had an effect, sure. But the books about Socrates certainly have a greater effect in the year 2009. I don’t believe Socrates wrote any books, but it’s safe to say he’d be more influential if he did.
Socrates wasn’t only written down by Plato, but also men such as Xenocrates, and it is very likely that other authors had written about him. In addition, the martrydom of Socrates has had the greatest effect upon his influence since it was one of the key factors that led to his remeberence in Athens at the time.
The writing Socrates would have been completely different from the one we know today because not writing books was very much a part of his teaching style, and with that change it would be impossible to estimate how influential Socrates would have been.
He wrote “not found” (i.e., not observed) and not “not existent”. His assertion is incorrect because black swans are indeed observed in nature but your attack is a ridiculous strawman.
Not found is a synonmy for "non existent - “not found” does not mean the same thing as “not observed” for “not found” is the shorter version of: “are not to be found”, and I’ll also note that if he meant “not observed” he could have simply written it - its just three letters longer than “not found”. However, its fun seeing how individuals are trying to make LaughingMan’s absolutely ignorent statement less embarassing.
No. Not found means - not found.
Yes, they are not found in nature; in other words: they are not in nature for how could you find something that is not found? Laughing Man did not say that we have never found black swans in nature; rather, he said they are not found, they are not to be found, they do not exist. Simple english.
And now they are found! Let’s quote scriptures from the bible now on how I was lost and now found! Amazing Grace maybe