What is the Difference Between Territorial Property and a State?

I think I get it now. You’re defining “resist” in terms of outcome, whereas I’m defining it in terms of intent. So for me, resistance can fail – for you, any resistance is, by definition, successful.

In other words, neither of us is wrong, but we’re using different definitions.

Well I consider it to be wrong. What more are you looking for, here? It seems like you’re trying to continue with the red herring, despite being called out on it.

Are you skeptical even of empirical observations? :stuck_out_tongue:

From what I saw, you took my statements regarding people’s innate moral instincts and the concept of natural law/order, and distorted them into a strawman along the lines of “all men are angels, yet some men are corrupting the angelic order”. If I’m mistaken here, please point it out. Sometimes it’s hard to see through obtuseness – I’m making my best effort at it. :wink:

I didn’t mean “we” in the sense of you and I directly. I was following your line of “If we stop pretending like we’re the ‘shining city on a hill’… then we’re finished”.

I’m saying that people who have to interact with one another on a regular basis will find it wise to determine a well defined body of law to resolve disputes so that they don’t have to resort to sporadic episodes of violence.

Non aggressive, non monopolistic.

So is this thread done? Or has Jackson just not visited the forum since Tuesday?

Bump.

This topic always gets to me when I’m just sitting aound thinking. I would give my 2 cents, but it’s nothing that hasn’t already been said in this thread. Any recommended readings about the difference between the two would be greatly appreciated.