jj - finished my project much faster than expected.
by saying we are capitalist we arent pushing an anarchy agenda or a libertarian agenda. We are pushing an economic fact that capitalism works, and 95% of the population agrees it works. Who cares about the little things? The little things like private schools, private roads, privatized everything is the conclusion of capitalism.
When you say that capitalism doesnt fully express the details, that EXACTLY why im for it. It doesnt require the 95% of the population to believe in anything different from what they believed yesterday. Picking at the little things prevents people from seeing the big picture.
We stress here freedom and liberty with the end deduction being in order to have freedom it means economically too. Well ppl have so many different aspects of what freedom and liberty is that we will never get the majority. Its going upstream without a paddle.
Lets do it the other way around! if 95% of the population knows that capitalism works best economically then lets push that! Anarchy and libertarianism is capitalism realized.
“I talk a bit about “capitalism” and relaying the concept to ignoramuses here.” - i revert back to it being the best part. We want to unite the people not divide it. We can talk all day to people about freedom and they wont care. Ask if capitalism works, and they will agree. If they dont know that economic freedom (capitalism) realized is libertarianism why should we change their mind? They will realize it when we get capitalism back. They also wont fight it because its what they wanted! They were the capitalist revolution.
"people are literally outright saying “I’m pro-intervention” - just as we are the innovators, the 2.5%, those people are the 2.5% for socialism. Its impossible to get 100%. All i care about is the silent majority in the middle with 68% of the population. If those are the people we are up against we cant lose. If we draw a line in the sand, that government isnt capitalism (which i believe vast majority of people will understand and believe) then those advocating intervention will have to say they are something other than capitalist.
as for gary johnson’s campaign stragedy - they still have to vote libertarian which only 17% will do. Could we of really asked for a better candidate than Ron Paul? How do we expect anyone to be better than him? He went after freedom and liberty when i think he should of gone after capitalism. Of course hindsight is 20/20.
I think the biggest problem is that EVERYONE (elected officials) preaches freedom, liberty, and prosperity. Its hard for ANYONE to stand out preaching that. In 2008, i was the in the 68% and didnt even waste time looking at ron paul. Although i like a lot of what he said i didnt waste anytime reading up on him because i thought he was just like every other politician (basically because i knew he wasnt going to win). This election i was the same until finally a close friend said i had to look at him because he preaches what i preached. We think its easy to see that ron paul was the obvious choice. As a part of the majority its not. I had to dig deep into voting records and study what he meant. I didnt agree on a lot of what he said, but i had to find out why he differed on those things when most of what he said was IDENTICAL of what i believed. Then i figured he was the best candidate, but i still disagreed on a lot. So i picked up ‘revolution’ and then he had to convince me that in fact those things that i disagreed with him on that I was the one that was wrong. Thats almost impossible considering how hard headed i am.
Thats what we have to do if we want the majority to go libertarian.
If he just would of preached capitalism, something that i knew was right and moral, pointed out how the other candidates arent capitalists i would of been voting for him without a second thought. Thats something i could relate to. Thats something 95% of the population relates to.
Do we as libertarians really care if people vote for libertarianism in the name of capitalism? Do we care if social democrats vote for libertarianism because economically speaking its the right choice? NO.
What we wont get, as Ron Paul proved, a majority of the people voting for our concept of liberty.