whats up with bitcoin and other crypto currencies?

[John_James]

For anyone interested, “System D” is explained in the third link, here.

@Seraiah

We are fast approaching a time technologically when System D will be so accessible that libertarian societies could crop up in moments, and where is the hurrah from libertarians?

Fear and denial aren’t exclusive to statists.

Take cryptocurrency for example. Whatever you think about it, or the theoretical ramifications, it is the single greatest libertarian tool ever invented. It exposes System D in a way that could never be done before. So why isn’t every libertarian and their mother using it?

Could it be because “whatever you think about it” could include “it is not the single greatest libertarian tool ever invented, in fact it’s not even very useful”, and “the theoretical ramifications are horrible”?

What you’re saying is essentially just like saying:

“Whatever you think about it, or the theoretical ramifications, getting shot in the face is the single greatest personal development tool ever invented. So why isn’t every single person and their mother using it??!???!?”

I’ll tell you why. Because they don’t agree with your premise. Just because you think something is a great tool doesn’t mean people agree with you…and it certainly doesn’t mean that “despite what they think of it” they’re going to use it. Instead of fantasizing about what’s wrong with libertarians, maybe you should study logic more.

There are no overlords to guide you through the paperwork to assure you that, “You’re doing everything right.”, there’s no illusion of protection from theft or wild changes in consumer preferences. No FDA. No FDIC.

Everything we’ve been calling for. Where’s the cheering? On these forums there’s a fog of phobia surrounding it, and the Austrian Economists proper are as quiet as mice.

What the hell are you talking about? What exactly are people supposed to be cheering about? What you just described doesn’t exist. You’re talking as if everything libertarians want has been achieved and they’re basically indifferent. In reality it was just ruled that a mandate to purchase health insurance else face a penalty is lega/Constitutional…and you’re talking about “no overlords! No FDA, No FDIC! WHY AREN’T LIBERTARIANS CHEERING?”

Are you Freedom4Me73986? Is this a thinly veiled argument to go live in the woods?

@Seraiah

It wasn’t what we were expecting. Where’s the gold standard? Where’s our country? Weren’t we suppose to have a collapse before we could have our society? Were our theories wrong…?

Many libertarians are so caught up in the fear that they hope passionately that cryptocurrencies will just cease to exist so that they can get back into their comfort zone and hope that a libertarian society arises in a more “traditional” way.

Once again, what in the hell are you talking about? Nothing you have described exists. I still have to pay Federal Reserve Notes to a federal agency or men with guns will attempt to abduct me and put me in a cage. I still have to either get groped or radiated if I want to fly on a commercial airplane. I still have to wait for FDA approval before trying a new cancer treatment that might save my live, or risk getting put in a cage. I risk getting put in that cage even if I carry a few ounces of a plant in a my pocket.

What in the hell are you talking about? Libertarians have their society? Where?

@Seraiah

And if you’re wondering, “What does this have to do with this topic!?”,

@John James

I think this serves as a nice example and reminder of how honestly difficult it is/ can be for people to actually wrap their heads around the idea of a Stateless society.

Yeah, I get it. You’re trying to claim that libertarians who advocate for a free society are actually “afraid” of it or something. And your reasoning for this is that they don’t bother to mess with cryptocurrencies which are essentially impractical for the vast majority of transactions anyone would engage in. You pretend that a free society actually exists—because there’s cryptocurrencies, apparently—and that libertarians somehow just don’t recognize it because it’s not what they envisioned and they are too afraid that their “theories” were wrong or something like that.

I offer you a comment of the same manner you offered:

“Whatever you think about it, or the little tiny reservoirs of liberty that might still exist, what we have now is not a free society. It is nothing like what a voluntarist advocates for, and in fact goes against the very two (the only two) core principles of libertarianism at all.”