This is rather disingenuous when you’re looking at a organization’s whose goal would benefit from the widespread distribution of Austrian books.
kiba:
If you have known, the Creative Common Attribution license is posted under the main site. Also, David Veksler is looking for people to set up bittorrent servers, last time I check.
Also, Jeffery Trucker, the webmaster of this site is explicitly anti-IP.
And yet, despite their fluctuating opinions, they still use copyright.
Do you know what a defensive copyright is?
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No part of this book may be reproduced in any manner whatsoever
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tucker had written that in his understanding If authors don’t copyright their work by appealing to the legal-fiction-supporting state, then others are free not just to distribute their work (who could be against that right?) but more importantly, could copyright the work themselves, and bar the actual authors and the Mises Institute from publishing the work.
Do you know what a defensive copyright is?
Such a thing makes no sense, as they have witnesses to their being the original producers.
What the copyright does do is prevent another publisher from selling books copyright by the Mises Institute, and thus create a “monopoly” on such books for the Mises store.
AJ:Maxliberty:
…my being forced to share information…
You’ve dismantled your entire position in six words. Because: What actual action are you being forced to perform or refrain from performing when someone copies something from you? (Remember we’re assuming no other laws are broken by that person in the process - no trespass, etc.)
You are forced to allow them to access your media.
Not when it’s out on the net already, or when you don’t effectively restrict access. Those are the scenarios being discussed - obviously, as all others would entail violating other laws (“actual property rights”) as I wrote above.
Now name the actual action you are forced to perform or refrain from, or you have no argument.
Daniel Muffinburg:Do you know what a defensive copyright is?
Such a thing makes no sense, as they have witnesses to their being the original producers.
What the copyright does do is prevent another publisher from selling books copyright by the Mises Institute, and thus create a “monopoly” on such books for the Mises store.
Yes, you understand it now. Current IP laws are nonsense. Sounds like enlightenment to me.
Daniel Muffinburg:Do you know what a defensive copyright is?
Such a thing makes no sense, as they have witnesses to their being the original producers.
What the copyright does do is prevent another publisher from selling books copyright by the Mises Institute, and thus create a “monopoly” on such books for the Mises store.
Would LvMI even care if another publisher does it?
I’ll still buy LvMI’s books anyway.
Would LvMI even care if another publisher does it?
Obviously they do, which is why it says “All rights reserved” instead of “you may freely reproduce this work”.
kiba:
Would LvMI even care if another publisher does it?
Obviously they do, which is why it says “All rights reserved” instead of “you may freely reproduce this work”.
Doug French’s book, which is a fairly recent publication, doesn’t have copyright in the PDF. http://mises.org/Books/bubbles.pdf
Stranger, I dare you to write an email to the institute stating simply the ISBN number of the book, that you are aware that they have the copyright, and whether you may have permission to freely reproduce this work. say nothing else, keep it short and relatively anonymous and lets see what the response is.
kiba:
Would LvMI even care if another publisher does it?
Obviously they do, which is why it says “All rights reserved” instead of “you may freely reproduce this work”.
Perhaps LvMI is limited by its organizational inefficiency to be able to change that copyright notice.
It is one thing to put your entire site under creative commons, but quite another to change every copyright notice in all LvMI’s library.
Stranger, I dare you to write an email to the institute stating simply the ISBN number of the book, that you are aware that they have the copyright, and whether you may have permission to freely reproduce this work. say nothing else, keep it short and relatively anonymous and lets see what the response is.
Actually it says in the book that they can give you permission to reproduce if asked. But you must get their consent to do so, hence it is an exercise in intellectual property.
Doug French’s book, which is a fairly recent publication, doesn’t have copyright in the PDF. http://mises.org/Books/bubbles.pdf
French’s book is based on his master’s thesis which belongs to the university, it may not be copyrightable.
ok, forget that first idea. so… ask them whether they meant what they said when they wrote in their book that you had to ask for permission.
i want to see if they tell you, “yes we want people to ask permission”. or "don’t bother asking permission ‘from us’ "
ok, forget that first idea. so… ask them whether they meant what they said when they wrote in their book that you had to ask for permission.
I don’t know how far you are willing to go to cover yourself with ridicule, but at this stage I consider all of your arguments refuted.
Good night.
nirgrahamUK:
Stranger, I dare you to write an email to the institute stating simply the ISBN number of the book, that you are aware that they have the copyright, and whether you may have permission to freely reproduce this work. say nothing else, keep it short and relatively anonymous and lets see what the response is.
Actually it says in the book that they can give you permission to reproduce if asked. But you must get their consent to do so, hence it is an exercise in intellectual property.
Physical books that were published under copyright, but are now in public domain, still carry the copyright notice in them. Are you seriously asking why a publisher, in this case LvMI, doesn’t go around removing those notices from every single book that is now in public domain?
Physical books that were published under copyright, but are now in public domain, still carry the copyright notice in them. Are you seriously asking why a publisher, in this case LvMI, doesn’t go around removing those notices from every single book that is now in public domain?
It was in a PDF.
Daniel Muffinburg:Doug French’s book, which is a fairly recent publication, doesn’t have copyright in the PDF. http://mises.org/Books/bubbles.pdf
French’s book is based on his master’s thesis which belongs to the university, it may not be copyrightable.
Since I have the courage to admit that I have made a mistake, then I openly agree with you and admit my mistake.
Here is Walter Block’s book on roads: http://mises.org/books/roads_web.pdf
ok, i will write the mail since you will not. thanks for providing the ISBN.
p.s. perhaps when you wake up tomorrow, and after you have had your fill of laughing at me, you will consider the weakness of your position.
to wit : https://forum.freecapitalists.org/t/where-ip-law-is-actually-a-good-thing/9928/196
in brief;
you believe that short texts are not IP, but longer texts that people with advanced memories would struggle to recall in perfection are IP.
you believe that one need not have played a part in an act of trespass in order to be an accomplice to a trespass
cya tomorrow
Daniel Muffinburg:Physical books that were published under copyright, but are now in public domain, still carry the copyright notice in them. Are you seriously asking why a publisher, in this case LvMI, doesn’t go around removing those notices from every single book that is now in public domain?
It was in a PDF.
Irrelevant. I’m talking about physical books, hence, the first two words in my previous post.