Why do you keep saying that businesses in the free-market will not be exploitative?

There’s no contradiction in saying “aggression is wrong except on Tuesdays” per se. But it seems like you’re treating “something either is or isn’t right” as an additional premise. That’s fine, but no one else is a priori obligated to accept it.

Yes you are, three laws of logic are apriori of argumentation, being that they’re apriori of language.

For him to then claim ownership of himself would be illegitimate, sure, but since I don’t think he has self-ownership any longer

You can’t legitimately have selfownership and then not have it, because it’s inalienable by itself.

Saying something is contradictory doesn’t explain how it’s contradictory. So with the above, you say that ownership of the self is inalienable because alienability would make it contradictory. But that doesn’t tell me how. It’s just an assertion with no explanation behind it. I’d really appreciate it if you’d provide an explanation.

Maybe if could read the explanation in the next sentence before trolling how I’ve offered no explanation.

I recognize that, in order to exercise ownership rights one has over an external object, one must have the right to exercise himself with/over that object. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he therefore has the right to exercise himself with/over any other external object.

Which has nothing to do with selfownership being inalienable.

there’s no contradiction inherent in the notion of selling oneself

There is. The notion of selfownership being alienable is contradictory because of it’s axiomatic nature, because it’s not founded on something, but it is the foundation, by rejecting it you’re left with nothing, it collapses. Saying that rejecting an axiom is it’s aplication or confirmation is a contradiction.

literally just saw on my facebook wall from one of my friends, ‘so i quit my job last week because they werent paying me enough. Just got a phone call from the VP apologizing and now im getting $5 an hour more and FULL benefits.’

I’m well aware of the three laws of thought. I can even list them for you: the law of identity, the law of non-contradiction, and the law of the excluded middle. But saying “aggression is wrong except on Tuesdays” doesn’t violate any of them. Technically, that statement involves considering aggression on Tuesdays as separate from aggression on other days, but I didn’t think that needed explicating.

And it’s inalienable by itself because… well, apparently because you say so. Here again you seem to be trying to jump over the infinitely long chasm between is-statements and ought-statements. The only way I can see to understand your statement logically is to take it as your way of saying that you’ll consider a person to still own himself even if he no longer considers himself to own himself. That’s fine, but that also has no necessary bearing on what he thinks.

On another note, my position does indeed contradict yours - because we don’t share the same premises. I thought that would’ve been clear to you by now, but I guess I was mistaken.

I did read it, and I don’t think it constitutes an explanation. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have said that you haven’t provided any explanation. Is your goal here to help me understand your position? Or what?

Why not? And what would you say it has to do with, if anything?

Are you now asserting that your notion of self-ownership cannot be disproven? If so, could you please provide a logical proof of that?

You proved it youself by talking to people, even though you’re trolling. Selfownership is an apriori norm of argumentation.

Do I need to call your bluff here as well?

Please explain how you see self-ownership as an a priori norm of argumentation. That is, I’m asking for your view here, in your own words (not Hoppe’s or anyone else’s).

That is, I’m asking for your view here, in your own words (not Hoppe’s or anyone else’s).

No need, go read Hoppe.

I’m going to repeat my request. And I’m going to continue repeating it in every post that I make to you in this thread (at least). Do you understand? I sure hope so.

Please explain how you see self-ownership as an a priori norm of argumentation. That is, I’m asking for your view here, in your own words (not Hoppe’s or anyone else’s).

He’ll do it too!