White House correspondents dinner is on right now. Btw, NATO killed one of Gh-K-Kh-addafi’s sons and murdered some of his grandchildren (they under 12 years). Any way, Seth Meyers is on right noe, “roasting” at the correspondents dinner, so the dinner is sucking.
Link to news article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110501/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_libya
Guess they thought the Jonas Brothers were there. LOL!!!
There were reports of children slain by NATO in Libya before too: http://news.antiwar.com/2011/04/01/more-civilians-including-children-slain-in-natos-libya-strikes/
There were some people on here that said things in favour of this NATO bombing when it begun. It is not necessary for any of them to come on here and concede that they were wrong, that is not important. But I hope they have since, or will now, change their minds, and never fall for these bombing campaigns again.
Since Murder must entail that there must be intention to kill and that it must be illegal then I see no chance that NATO has murdered any Children unless you can demonstrate that NATO actually targetted the Children or that they killed the Children whilst commiting an illegal act. And thats not illegal by your own private definition it must actually contravene existing law …and it doesn’t.
They don’t drop bombs because it helps grow flowers.
lol
I must also lol.
For now, I will LOL too because I don’t have time for a longer reply.
LOL because you don’t have a reply.
If I needed that level of intellect I could be on a libertarian socialist site and see you(liberty student) there under a different name but same avatar.
LOL because I did reply. Didn’t read the post to which you replied? LOel.
Sure. I’m game. I deny that NATO murders children. My denial:
NATO is an organization of many individuals. A collective is incapable of murder on the grounds that someone commits the act directly at some point. It is entirely possible that through the chain of command, the final actor was not, in fact, even a member of NATO. However, assuming they are, that individual is the murderer. The collective members of NATO are merely conspirators to murder.
Which law permits them to drop bombs on Gaddafi residence?
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Ghaddaffi is a self admitted active officer in his armed forces and is in conflict with NATO forces.He is a perfectly legitimate target.He has also commited Mass murder of UK citizens.
Qadaffi’s sons are furriners, so it’s alright.
Irrelevant for your argument. He was not convicted, extrajudicial killing is an illegal act.
The residence in question was his son’s, Gaddafi-grandad was merely visiting. What law permitts targeting of his son’s property?
He is in conflict with NATO forces? Really? Has there been a declaration of war? No? What law permits NATO engage in hostilities against a soverign state without a declaration of war?
You started with the legalese, lets see if you can see them out.
If the children weren’t swarthy furriners who worship Mohammed then at the least the people who dropped the bombs would be culpable of manslaughter. It would be pretty reckless to assume that dropping bombs would not lead to the death of innocents. But it’s OK, because furriners aren’t really human beings.
What is all this ‘what laws allow’? Since when do we need laws that allow us to do something? You need to tell me which laws prohibit this action.
You don’t need to have a declaration of war to initiate conflict.
Crazy Coot -are you a socialist? You sure write like one.
Ultimately this argument is pointless.Certain people here want to chant like socialist and others want to use terms like ‘murder’ when Killing would do as well. I am not going to deny that actions by NATO have resulted in Children being killed.Of course socialists prefer the term 'murdered because i’ts more emotive.
If you wish to denbate whether conflict is justified or not then I am very happy to but for any sort of libertarian to demand that you need a law to allow you to do something is beyond beleif.
Droping bombs on residences you mean?
Duh, obviously. Jet we are talking legalese. You started with it. Now finish it. Sneak attacks are unlawful. Waging an undeclared war is an illegal act. How come then NATO waging the war in Libya is not an illegal act?
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Mean what you say or shut up.
You stated: … no chance that NATO has murdered any Children unless you can demonstrate that NATO … killed the Children whilst commiting an illegal act. ..it must actually contravene existing law ..
Exploding bombs on people is generally considered illegal, I don’t think this requires special proof. Either explain why it is not illegal in this case, or retract your statement.
What a stupid thing to say. National soverignity and non-aggression are the corner stones of international law. It is very restrictive of when a state may wage war. For all intents and purposes it works so that initiating war is categorically prohibited upon which exceptions are made for when states come up with a legally accepted justification.
Waging war without declaring war is illegal according to which law?
Which law bans dropping bombs on residences during conflict?