Link, Heather?
"“Little men and great causes go ill together” Jawaharlal Nehru
“Liberators do not exist: the people liberate themselves” Ernesto “Che” Guevara
One of them was a fully-blown statist, the other a wannabe tyrant but both were right on the money."
I don’t put much stock in bumper quotes. I mean sure they are nice for signatures but beyond that it is better just to put what you think in your own words. Also I would not call Nehru a “full-blown statist.” He was a social democrat. Really this whole “You’re a statist” business is somewhat petty. He had a philosophy that he followed, use that term because it A.) seems less petty B.) shows you are at least informed about the matter. It can also indirectly or directly encourage people who do not know the term to look it up thereby increasing their knowledge.
Anyways I will stop being a nitpicking a-hole.
Aren’t social democrats statists though?
“Aren’t social democrats statists though? ”
No they are social democrats! Social democrats are social democrats!
This is super cereal because correct language usage is grounded in rational thought which is grounded in human nature. Therefore incorrect language usage is anti-human thus immoral! So sayeth Ryan Sorba!
Sorry, you confused me. Try again?
"Sorry, you confused me. Try again?
Listen I could go from beginning to end about the history of social democrats, but I don’t have enough time to get into it. It’s not what people want to hear, they won’t understand it or they will get lost. Let me just say that language offenders are immoral and we can’t let them have an identity because then we are conceding the debate. So sayth Ryan Sorba!
I’m sorry but I still don’t understand your point. In fact, I’m not even sure if you’re being serious here or not.
“I’m sorry but I still don’t understand your point. In fact, I’m not even sure if you’re being serious here or not.”
No I am not being serious hence why I am talking about Ryan Sorba who is a joke. What I am saying though (semi-seriously) is that my perspective is that people should use the actual philosophical titles that people practice instead of just saying “statist.” People are probably just going to metaphorically flip me off and say “I want to use statist” but at least they read my perspective.
Oh no, I understand your perspective. All social democrats are statists, but not all statists are social democrats. Depending on the context, it might be useful to distinguish different types of statists. Does that make sense?
To be fair to Jack Hunter he’s always been honest about where he stands. He’s repeatedly said that he’s not an anarchist, minarchist, or even a classical liberal. He’s a conservative. And frankly he’s done a decent job of promoting some ideas to a conservative audience, including foreign policy issues.
Oh no, I understand your perspective. All social democrats are statists, but not all statists are social democrats. Depending on the context, it might be useful to distinguish different types of statists. Does that make sense?
I’m not trolling, I assure you.
"To be fair to Jack Hunter he’s always been honest about where he stands. He’s repeatedly said that he’s not an anarchist, minarchist, or even a classical liberal. He’s a conservative. And frankly he’s done a decent job of promoting some ideas to a conservative audience, including foreign policy issues. "
Well conservative in what sense? Old Right conservatives were classical liberals in many respects. Hunter seems to care a great deal about social conservatism…but I have yet to hear anything of his views and him not simply shilling for Ron Paul.
From what I understand, Jack Hunter does (somewhat?) support states’ rights. But that’s not necessarily a libertarian cause.
Where’s the Hot Topics section? Do I need to be a member?
“From what I understand, Jack Hunter does (somewhat?) support states’ rights. But that’s not necessarily a libertarian cause.”
Right, being for states rights does not necessarily make you libertarian or even a prononent of liberty. Moving power bases to numerous locations instead of one location does not mean…well anything really, other then the fact you want it dispered instead of concentrated. Are there any people here who are up on Jack Hunter’s beliefs?
“Where’s the Hot Topics section? Do I need to be a member?”
The “Other” portion of the forums under Misc. Discussion and yes you need to be a member. To be a member you must:
A.) Bath in the the blood of a virgin
Or
B.) Show unyelding support to the Paul family.
It’s a tough choice.
Lol. Oh, but she’ll never be castigated for attacking others.
Well sure, she can be castigated for attacking others. But I imagine she’ll ban people who do that in “her” forum. People are free to be hypocrites on their own property (or property they’re managing) as long as they don’t violate others’ property rights.
That’s because they’re more pro minarchy than anti state. (Which is why they purged the ancaps, especially the Rothbardians, a few years ago.)