Article from a local Professor

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and at this link: http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090118/NEWS01/901180339


Frank Roosevelt thinks his famous grandfather could be an example to Barack Obama - starting with FDR’s mistakes.

Roosevelt, an economics professor at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers and the 32nd president’s grandson, said Obama should throw more money at the fractured economy than FDR ever did during the New Deal.

He said Obama should do something his grandfather wouldn’t do 76 years ago - embrace the deficit-spending theories of economist John Maynard Keynes.

“FDR never did get the Keynesian thing, and therefore the whole New Deal effort was not big enough,” said Roosevelt, 70. “I mean, it didn’t get us out of the Depression, really, until World War II came along, and then government spending really got big enough to really employ everybody and then some.”

Obama has increasingly been measured by the standard set by Franklin Delano Roosevelt - a leap not everyone is willing to make.

Roosevelt proudly welcomes the comparisons, but did caution Obama to view FDR as a history lesson as much as a role model.

“He needs to take action,” he said. “But I don’t think he needs to do 15 different things, because FDR was just sort of flailing about, and they were trying this and trying that.”

Roosevelt has been on the Sarah Lawrence faculty since 1977. He is an Obama supporter who contributed to the Illinois senator’s presidential campaign and his inauguration fund.

He sees some of his grandfather in the president-elect.

“I think their personalities are both calm, steady, intelligent, and hopeful people,” Roosevelt said. “Hopefully, Obama will inspire the nation, and I think he’s going to do something like the fireside chats, although using the Internet now and YouTube.”

And there are other similarities between the 1932 and 2008 presidential races, said Ralph Stein, a constitutional law professor at Pace Law School in White Plains.

“The outgoing presidents in both cases represent viewpoints that have been largely repudiated by the electorate,” Stein said. “And in both instances, there’s an economic crisis that has galvanized the country, and a belief that a new administration can make things a lot better.”

But Stein also said the comparisons are exaggerated.

“The first 100 days of the FDR administration were actually conservative in this regard: The country was sliding very rapidly towards what could have been significant disunion,” he said. “And what he did is he stabilized the country through his measures, that there was a future.”

Political consultant Hank Sheinkopf went so far as to call the comparisons “shallow.” He said the America Roosevelt inherited in 1933 was in much deeper crisis.

“We are in a crisis, but we’re not in a depression. We do not have bread lines on the streets,” he said. “The social scene and the economic world are entirely different today than the world in which Roosevelt operated.”

Roosevelt’s biggest gripe with his grandfather is that he didn’t spend enough to jump-start the economy. He is among economists who espouse Keynsian thinking. Keynes believed public investment funded by deliberate government deficits was the best remedy for a faltering economy, rather than relying on private-sector forces he believed were unreliable because they were motivated by self-interest.

It’s a lesson Roosevelt said his grandfather never learned. FDR even sparked a new economic downturn in 1937 by attempting to balance the budget - a historical blip that Roosevelt wrote a paper on while studying at Yale.

Now, Roosevelt said, he hopes the nation’s soon-to-be 44th president will heed the lesson.

“I think Obama has to learn from that and forget about balancing the budget,” Roosevelt said. "Spend, spend, spend until we’ve done enough to stop this decline.

"So if I could talk with him, I would say, ‘Go for broke,’ " he said. “Literally, go for broke.”

The whole “war got the country out of the depression” argument annoys me so much. Not only were thousands of tonnes of steel and fuel literally blown up, but the economy was ravaged by wartime shortages, rationing and price controls.

Theoretical and historical junk.

I can’t stand the parralelisms everybody is making between Obama, FDR, and Kennedy; they vex me to no end.

Obama ran as a big-government "liberal.

FDR ran as a small government liberal.

Very different, but seeing as FDR went completely against much of his rhetoric, we could make a parallel and excpect Obama to be a classical liberal in disguise.

The stock market as measured by the Dow Jones Industrial Average did not recover to its 1929 average until 1953, 8 years after WW2, and to its 1929 high in 1956.

The whole WW2 resolved the depression is a myth. The only positive aspect of the return of soldiers after WW2 was that Truman unlike his predecessor did not re-invent the assnine programs of the depression for the thousands of soldiers returning home. They tried some stupidity with the GI bill and stuff buy not much like the WPA.

These comparisons never cease to frighten me. The Depression went from 1930 to 1947 or about 17 years. That is scary as Obama wants to do the same things. No matter how calm or how enlightened, the ONLY way to end a Recession/Depression is for the central bank and government to stop operations, that is stop stealing wealth from the producers and giving it to the users.

There’s an argument going on in the forum below the article at the link I provided above. Would anyone like to respond to him?