I was just wondering how someone could be religious after learning about (and becoming a supporter of) anarcho-capitalism. Much of anarchism is based on weeding out the magical mumbo-jumbo that keynesian economics has come up with over the years. Religion is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, that, once weeded out, leaves the individual an atheist or an agnostic (atheist without balls).
It seems to means that being a religious anarcho-capitlast is a hypocritical misuse of one’s rational capacity to sort truth from falsehood.
The entire thing is irrelevant. Religion shouldn’t equate with political theory. It’s more of a personal and cultural persuasian. Saying that religion is “mumbo-jumbo” like Keynesian economics is extremely arrogant, and are nowhere near the same thing. I don’t even see how this is a serious topic.
Anarcho-capitalism is a political philosophy, religion is unrelated and anarchism doesn’t really have anything to do with Kenesian Economics. How did you determine that religion was a bunch of “mumbo-jumbo” exactly?
I’m an anarcho-libertarian. Logically is governments always take growing amounts of freedom away from me, then a condition of no-government is preferable.
I’m a follower of Austrain economics because is is logical. Keynsian (and other schools) who use bad math and impossible models are not logical.
I’m a gnostic because it explains logically the condition of the world I find around me. http://gnosis.org Augistine said
God is all-powerful,
God is all-good,
Terrible things happen in our world,
You can believe in any 2 of these, but not all 3.
I really don’t see how this disproves god (if that was your intention) nor why all 3 cannot be believed. One could easily believe that god simply has a “hands off” role in human affairs thereby maintaining his “all-good” status but rectifying it with the “terrible” world we live in. Or one could just have a different idea of what constitutes “all-good” and “terrible.”
I am anarcho-capitalist and non-theist. Even so, I find the OP rather non sequitor.
Religion is something taken on faith, not on reason. Politics and economics, on the other hand, is entirely a function of reason. If you choose to accept religion on faith, that does not interfere with your ability to accept anarcho-capitalism by reason. The only interfering factor would be if your accepted religion required some sort of government, something that Christianity and Judism do not require. Not sure of Islam and the rest.
A statement like this coupled with at least a page of arguments might be considered bold. Completely unsupported as it is here, it just comes off as petty.
Faith is a meaningless human construct. Reason applies to both political and cultural “beliefs” and thus the two are very much related. If someone possesses the rational capacity to see the logical sense of libertarianism then they should equally be able to see the logical sense of atheism or agnosticism.
Actually I have done quite a bit of research to come up with my decision that religion is mumbo-jumbo.
I do not have the time to educate others as well. Since the point of this thread has nothing to do with proving or disproving religion I fail to see why a page of arguments is necessary.
OQ, the only way you can demonstrate that a religious anarchist is a half-reasoning hypocrite is by demonstrating that religion is indeed a misuse of reason. If you’re going to take that as given from the outset, then you’ve already supplied the only possible answer to your “question”.
You can start by reading Dawkins’ God Delusion. Anyhow, the number of logical fallacies that show up in religion should excite those of you who like to throw around phrases like “non sequitur” and “ad hominem”.
Find out the answer for yourself. Its a wonderful journey.
I have not read that book, but is it specifically referring to the Judea-Christian God, or what?
Also, since you have brought this subject to topic, I’d like to think you are well read in the situation, and since you are blasting all types of religion and spirituality, because they are based on “faith” and not “reason” that you would at least have an understanding of other types of beliefs/religions outside of the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam).
I’d hope you would have an understanding in the differences in Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path beliefs. Maybe you even have an understanding on the philosophy from Left-Hand Path belief systems such as Satanism (more specifically Anton LaVey’s) and Setianism which promotes individuality.
Maybe you are well read in ancient Egyptian and Greco-Roman paganism and Hermeticism. Maybe even Old Norse Heathenry and the usage of Runes.
Also, you being an athiest, do you believe that man should be balanced spiritually, or that it doesn’t matter and it’s “mumbo-jumbo”?
Although proving causality is a whole other matter, I would be willing to bet that there is a statistically significant correlation between AnCaps and Atheists/Agnostics/non religious.
Religion is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo
It’s also a memetic infection.
Religion is something taken on faith
That’s cool. I have faith in Keynesianism. Therefore it must be true. As one of my axioms it proves Austrian Economics cannot be true.
agnostic (atheist without balls)
Oh, you have a proof that God doesn’t exist do you? Sounds like hubris. There may be 0, 1, 500, or any other number of Gods. Or a Flying Spaghetti Monster or Invisible Pink Unicorn. I have no idea.
I consider simulationism (the belief that the universe is a simulation) plausible. The simulation might be operated by a God. Keeping concious beings unwittingly trapped in a virtual reality (a bottleworld) is something I consider immoral. But how would I know if this is happening or not? In any case, it doesn’t have any impact on my life AFAIK. That makes me “ignostic”, I think.
How did you determine that religion was a bunch of “mumbo-jumbo” exactly?
Because it involves invisible things that can’t be reproducibly measured (if at all). Like orgone theory, ESP, the tooth fairy, and vampires.
