“I wonder what sample they used.”
Gero, Merlin, Eric80, Modus Tollens and Nick Griffin
Judging peoples physical attractiveness on their physical attributes = RACISM!!!
As far as I’m concerned, attempting to aggregate a massive number of subjective preferences based on race is “racism”.
I’ve always found I tend to find black women more attractive in person than when I see them in “media.” Hopefully that doesn’t make me a bigot…
In any case, I can’t help but think photobias might have something do with this. Western socieities have traditionally been predominantly caucasian, and hence the faces we are exposed to from an early age are so. I can’t help but think this must have an effect on our aspirations. For instance when I first came to the UK, I think I had a definite preference towards South Asian women, as that ws what I had been exposed to a lot.
Then again, in India, the women, and actresses all try very hard to “look white,” applying talcum powder etc. Then again, so many white people try desperately hard to brown themselves with a tan. I guess maybe nobody’s happy with who they are
Yes I’ve noticed this… White people want to look darker, Indians and Africans want to look lighter, East Asians want to look more caucasian…
Maybe there’s some sort of subconscious drive to widen the gene pool, heh.
Judging peoples physical attractiveness on their physical attributes = RACISM!!!
No. Making up some bullshit pseudo-scientific theory that assigns objective truth to a subjective preference reveals the racist motivations of certain people.
Easily the most lamentable part of the list
That’s the whole point isn’t it? That what makes something beautiful is completely subjective.
Sure I’d say there’s something natural at work in terms of how attractive we find people- but I personally think it has a lot to do with feminine behavior over the look of skin, that’s been my experience. You’re saying it has more to do with symmetry of facial features, maybe thats just what gets you going.
I mean if even for one person the symmetry of a woman’s face has nothing to do with the physical attraction he feels for her, doesn’t that mean that symmetry of the face is biologically completely meaningless for him?
All I was saying is that symmetry of facial features, I think, is somehow representative of “good genes” on something like a subconscious level. The same way the curvature in the hips and feminine inclinations are representative of estrogen. Male humans, on a mass scale, are biologically programmed to mostly find these things attractive. There will always be outliers to be sure; I’m only arguing that it is a mixture of “objective” and “subjective” factors. In other words, I’m saying it’s a two-way street depending on measurable features of reality and then the individuals’ interpretation of those features.
There are other studies that suggest things like beauty are heavily influenced by culture as well. So perhaps there is a conditioning element as well. Who knows.
I do believe conditioning has a whole lot to do with it. Some people are bombarded everyday by images of what is supposed to represent sexuality, other people aren’t- and surely that gives different results. I would imagine someone who builds a physiological relationship to watching pornography by masturbing and ejaculating to that kind of stimulus everyday is very much engaged in conditioning that type of behavior as being the factor for what he finds attractive.
But lets say they took their sample from a different neighborhood where they don’t find white women attractive at all for example, wouldn’t this study be completely upside down and tell us “White women found to be least attractive”? I mean even if it is judging on averages, there were only 3 interviewers who got to judge attractiveness, and who knows how many actual respondents.
But when it comes to why anyone would find this study offensive its because lets say there’s a situation where someone reads this study and they think “Wait what? I’m considered the least attractive even though every man I’ve been has told me I was beautiful?”- and some guy pushing his glasses up says “Nope, its a cold hard fact that you aren’t attractive. Those guys are just outliers, and their biological wiring is all messed up.” I mean surely its easy to see WHY it can come as offensive, even if thats not the objective.
I mean it doesn’t make any sense to someone who’s had a completely different experience of reality, and it begs the question whats wrong with these men that have completely different standards for attractiveness outside of waist-hip ratio? Is something wrong with them since they’re not biologically wired to have that be their catalyst for feeling attraction? Is it possible that on a mass scale many men have been conditioned as to what they find attractive? The study doesn’t really answer anything for me, anyway.
Well we black women have something your white or asian girls cannot have. Our backsides are unrivalled, and thats why we continue to attract attention of the most fertile men to cherish us.
Beauty is subjective, what I may think is beautiful or attractive, may look ugly to another person. Culture also has a great influence to this perception. There are cultures where having a longer neck, or a really small nose is seen as more attractive.
Quite frankly, I have seen 10/10 of every race in person.
This.
Perhaps the scientist could get a job doing market research for an escort agency.
I’m selling it according to what I’ve seen of it under the name, including this atrocious excuse for research. Aside from the obviously moronic aspect of it being a survey of mainly caucasian males on african attractiveness, the article is an ignoramus’s paradise. Older women have lower testerone than younger women. Now I’ll smoke some crack and conclude that this means that women become more feminine looking with age. African-american women have on average higher estrogens and are fatter overall, including 30% larger breast volume than all other regionally distinct groups. The only thing this article did was demonstrate how much biochemistry “evolutionary psychologists” study and how much stupidity and ignorance you can fit under the word “science”. The fact that this guy authored the book you recommended is enough reason to not read it.
Indeed, it is rather amusing how quickly people jumpt to loud and uneducated conclusions based on the breadcrumbs of knowledge they have regarding complex subjects such as the endocrinal system. Increased testosterone, also I think shows correlation with more libido in both sexes.
Yes, although there are a number of hormones that affect this.
Perhaps the scientist could get a job doing market research for an escort agency
lol
But, that would require producing results that you can take to the bank.
For me, at least, a perfectly symmetrical face evokes a VERY strong feeling of uncanny valley.
Also, I find that black women with curly hair aren’t so great, but black women with straight hair are, by and large, far more attractive then most women, especially because of dat ass
Really, measurement of attractiveness varies from person to person. There is no objective standard of “sexy”.