The Fallacy of Race

My Comparative Politics textbook asks, “Why is it good to have minorities in the legislature?” I ask, “Why does this text state implicitly that it is good at all to have minorities in the legislature?”

OMG! WTF! Call the thought police! We have a racist in the vicinity!

Whoa, hold your horses there, Mr. Social Justice Advocate. If you allow for an open discussion on this concept of race (which you claim to be what you want, even as you subvert everyone who disagrees with you by labeling them a “racist”) you would see that I am not a racist. Indeed, I am the opposite. As I will shortly demonstrate, it is you who border the tenets of racism, not me.

Proponents of "racial justice,” a subcategory of “social justice,” are prone to numerous fallacies. The first of them is the idea that the coercive apparatus of the state must be used to institutionalize racial distinctions through law—thus justifying the claims of racists and racialists that “races” as we know them are fundamentally different and thus deserving of unequal treatment under the law. Worse still, racial quotas and other results of state intervention in the race-distinction business tramples the property rights of employers, violating their natural rights to employ whoever the hell they want to.

[rant]I don’t care if they choose to employ a fucking monkey, a job is the property of its creator, and as such he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.[/rant]

Such laws also transform “minorities” into walking lawsuits, thus making them unappealing for employers and creating unemployment amongst their ranks. This is amusing in a perverse sort of way, because it leaves the ignorant racial distinctionists who believe that the state is the solution to all social ills scratching their heads and concluding that capitalism must be at fault.

The free market provides natural incentives against arbitrary discrimination (defined here as being based upon something other than job performance). If employer A, being racist, forgoes hiring a productive white employee in favor of a less productive black employee, employer A will lose the additional profit that it would have otherwise acquired if it had an equitable employment policy. Employer B, being run by greedy capitalists who discriminate solely in favor of green, hire the more productive white employee. Ceteris paribus, employer A will be less competitive and have lower profit (or higher losses).

When the government provides legal protections to certain groups, members of said groups cease to be viewed by employers as valuable contributors and transform into black holes of litigation not worth the risk. Laws that aim at protecting groups from discrimination make it in a business-owners rational self-interest to discriminate against members of said group (the opposite of free-market incentives).

One mind-numbingly stupid proposition put forth in the text is that political parties should offer voters the choice of a black and a white candidate. There was also a nostalgic reminiscence over the good ol’ days in the Soviet Union when quotas were in place. Such laughable ideas reinforce what racists have been trying to tell us all along—that the various “races” are fundamentally different.

But what of my promise to demonstrate the connection between racism and advocates of so-called “racial justice?”

Both share the same basic philosophical underpinnings of collectivism, a philosophy that judges people based upon what groups they have membership in rather than in their capacity as individuals. Groupism is irrational and must be destroyed if we are to truly enter the much-lauded “post-racial” society. If this is to happen, we must repeal groupist laws such as racial quotas and affirmative action which serve only to justify groupist philosophy by having the state recognize it as legitimate (which it is not).

In truth, races are nothing more than social constructions based upon phenotypic observations and stereotypes. Rational people should dismiss such factors when determining what who to hire or associate with. Society cannot truly progress past the primitive idea of “race” until the government quits making distinctions between “races.” As far as I am concerned, there is only one race: the human race. And coercion is NEVER an acceptable solution to a social ill.

Racism is a sin of the heart. It cannot be legislated away at the whim of those in possession of legalized violence (or “elected officials” as they are sometimes referred to).

Makes sense to me.

I would consider racism as a subcategory of statism. An irrational outgrowth of an irrational “philosophy”.

Why are you so sure that racism is specifically oriented by statism? I consider it a side effect of statism, this is to say that without the state these racial divisions would not have arisen, but as it is why are you so certain that all racist philosophies would die in the event of statelessness. Certain racist beliefs claim to have certain scientific backing (I have been told that race is somewhat correlated to intelligence but I have not checked to see the validity of this) but assuming that is is true then this gives them a backing with which to perpetuate themselves. We’re stuck with race for along time now although race in and of itself is a collectivist abomination and a blight upon the human spirit.

One of the things that I would enjoy the most if a stateless society would appear tomorrow is watching the self victimizing sections of the African American population have to deal with a concept that there’s no state to save them from the tyranny of the “evil white man”, and on the other side I would be ecstatic to watch the white nationalists seclude themselves off in certain areas to get them the hell away from the decent section of the population.

And also it needs to be said, bi racial women are gorgeous [:D]

Theoretically, the libertarian racist is a possibility so long as he practices his racism peacefully. However, most racists I am aware of have attempted to use the power of the state to institutionalize racism.

As far as i know, the government doesn’t tell you who you can and can’t marry, yet less than 3% of all marriages are interracial.

wiki race and intelligence is actually kind of shocking. Like, you would think that there’s maybe a 3 IQ pt difference between whites and blacks… its actually more like 20 IQ pts.

I think you’re taking issue more with the language of the question than anything else.

It is worded in a social justice leaning way though, no doubt about it. A more fair question, imo, would be “does it really matter if the people being elected are minorities or not as long as the voters are reasonably satisfied with their choice?” or something like that.

QFT

And it’s not just women. My female friends tell me the same is true of men.

I know. While I dissaprove (the more bi racial marriage and general integration the better) the fact is that

  1. People are, for the most part, I believe, more physically attracted to their own race by and large.

  2. The vast majority of people are racist on more than just a base level (it is impossible not to be at least slightly racist unless you are literally blind but this shouldn’t matter) so inter racial relationships are less likely on that level as well

  3. Single racial relationships have a traditional way of perpetuating themselves in a sort of traditional manner.

  4. People in the same racial group (especially African American) tend to be in closer proximity to each other and therefore its a simple numbers game which, when combined with all of the following, makes the whole thing far more difficult.

I would be very interested to know how much the idea of children affects many people’s conception of race relationships, for instance out of all the inter racial couples that I currently know all are black males marrying white females and out of all of the children you literally could not tell from just looking that half of their genetic buildup was caucasian. I’d be interested to know if this had any effect upon the psychology of some women and a large majority of men or not… Just a musing.

Indeed Ive been quite interested to talk to these people about their relationship but I’ve always felt that they would get the wrong impression.

Yea I’ve heard figures like that before… However I absolutly fail to care in any significant way other than exactly how it perpetuates the beliefs of racist groups. I question I like to ask is if they advocate making sure that stupid white people and smart white people don’t breed.

Theres my two cents. Be interested to know what you think.

Also, I think the words “racist” and “prejudiced” and “biased” and “bigoted” are all often used interchangeably thus making the word “racist” a blanket term for just about any positive or negative reaction relating to ethnicity or race.

When the words cease to have meaning, conversations about the concepts becomes difficult.

More generally, I’m taking issue with the NAACP types who actually advocate segregationist policies that exacerbate “racial tensions.”

Perhaps that’s the idea. Creates more problems for state authorities and leftist academia to solve.

No question in my mind that they perpetuate the very problems they claim to want to solve.

Very true.

This is why I defined arbitrary discrimination on the part of an employer as being based upon something other than job performance. Prejudice is pretty self-explanatory–it is pre-judging. One can be prejudiced against anything, not just race. The same is true of many other such terms.

I should say that statism feeds racism unnecessarily. I want to see how racism would fare in a free society. I think it would mostly die off or be relegated to obscurity, like people who believe the Earth is alive and stuff like that.

I would know, I’m dating one (yes!) :wink:

So this racial preference in mates could transfer over to racial preference in economic association. There are market incentives against this, but between ceteris parabis applicants to a job, you could choose on the basis of something arbitrary. Though its been pointed out that min wage laws make this worse.

Actually most black people have white blood in them… I think its only recently that interracial breeding (not marriage) has really died down.

I live on austin. I should do it sometime I see interracial couples occasionally (white, black). Seldom white/hispanic or white/asian. Probably has something to do with the fact that hispanics and asians are kind of in different boats from poor whites and blacks. Politically, culturally, economically.

It really bugs me that hispanics think they have this birth-right to mexican culture… I mean my ancestors danced around a fire and painted themselves and wore stupid clothign. But everyone would think i was totally high if I celebrated my ancient german heritage. They wouldn’t be wrong, its just, you should think that everyone else who does that with their ancestors’ culture is high too :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, we’re genetically 99% similar to apes and look at the int difference. A priori there’s no reason to expect different genetic strands of humans to have much in common intellectually.

I doubt it. To some extent with racial supremicists and white nationalists and the like. But quite frankly let’s suppose that you aren’t attracted to women with black skin, are you really not going to sell things to these people? And I don’t really think its going to matter for hiring people. For some it might a little bit but for the vast majority of people I don’t think that they’ll care.

That’s a one sided coin for the most part and I don’t really think that it was ever all that common.

I remember my father a while ago telling me about a story when he was in school and they had this women who was like 1/16th Cherokee come in and totally unrecognizable for anything but pure Caucasian come in and talk to him about her “her people” and the culture of the Cherokee.. And she had the whole head dress and everything. I find culture to be idiotic anyway, you should choose how you act not simply imitate your parents.

Yes, but they don’t. I see little actual difference between my Caucasian and Negro friends… Besides some stupid ideas brought about by racism. And indeed as you said there has been “enough” interbreeding for a decent amount of similarities, especially with African Americans.

Tru dat!

I’ve had my eye on one for a while… nothing so far but wish me luck :wink:

Lol. Racism is simple human biological and cultural atavism. It existed before the State, and will probably exist after it. Now, states (especially democratic totalitarian states) do tend to aggravate ‘racial’ tensions. But this is just goofy.

It’s impossible for a libertarian to be racist.

Sorry, they’re all just statist memes to me.