Thanks for the response, I’m appreciating this sort of discussion a lot more. i"ll have to respond later though. I put each for different reaons :slight_smile: Marx on capitalist economics, Lenin on imperialism, Kropotkin and Bakunin on leftist anarchism and anti-propertarian ideals.

Physically manipulating them is RARELY part of the bargain so you concede that physically manipulating people is not persuasion and is coercion? everyone has to start somewhere

so you concede that physically manipulating people is not persuasion and is coercion? No, just that physically manipulating them takes their intentionality out of the picture.

so you concede that physically manipulating people is not persuasion and is coercion? No, … so you think that physically manipulating people is persuasion and is not coercion?

Come over my house and I’ll show you the difference between persuasion and coercion.

Bringing up the horrible conditions in sweatshops isn’t really just making an emotional appeal. I mean if your discussing politics, I certainly hope this kind of thing concerns you.. Drace, let me first point out that I agree with you that anybody who wrotes off the some of the conditions people …

First off, why does the serf agree to an arrangement with the landlord? The worker, being in a inferior position, has no choice to but accept exploitative work or starve. The article so far does not even address class and class struggle. It does not make a distinction between the common laborer an…

Look, anyone who calls a foreign factory a sweatshop knows nil about factories and is just flicking boogers from a tree branch. All factories are sweatshops. All factories are dirty, stinky, noisy and hot. I tried working at an auto parts plant and collapsed on the first day. People who work in thes…

Yeah bro, factories in the US are totally comparable to the factories in China with 16 hour work shifts, no clean water, no bathroom breaks, poverty wages, poor enviroments, no worker safety, and armed guards.

Yes, they are exactly the same.

Drace's Comment That Derailed Jesse's Thread And Subsequent Argument Can be Found Here

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I’m still waiting on your economic expertise in your asteroid thread Giles.

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