Can anyone show any articles written in the 30’s associating fascism with being on the right, capitalism, or being some off shoot of old school liberalism?
Can any one show me American/British thinkers who were sympathetic towards fascist ideals in the 30’s, who were they and how many of them were more in the Progressive/ socialist camp before?
Look up Oswald Mosley.
A simplified, & partially tounge-in-cheek response to the OP on how Fascism got to mean “extrmeley right wing”
Propaganda
Counter-propaganda
Political Alignments
Counter-Political Alignments
Reactionary Political Action
Redefinition of terms & their use
Revision of Propaganda
Repeat.
Fascism is right wing. It’s a conservative and tribalist ideology.
Funny though, the biggest group of resistors against Hitler were conservative German nationalists.
And instead of pointing out where you thought this was the case, you went right ahead and talked about a topic which is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
I’ll say this once more for your benefit: whether or not fascism is right wing has absolutely nothing, zero, nada, nil, not a single thing to do with the question of why it is seen as right wing. Thanks for playing.
Hmm . . .
You guys are confusing Hitler’s interpretation of Government (National Socialism) with Mussolini’s interpretation (Republican Fascism). They are similar, but worlds apart. Just as Leninism and Stalinism are similar, but different. I’ve always interpreted Mussolini’s Fascism as Centralized Corporatism (Centralized Capitalism?) and Hitler’s government as National Socialism (duh!). Am I in the right forums[*-)]? This should be self-explanatory, unless I’m wrong (I hope).
I can’t believe I’m reading this! I expected more from you guys. [:(]
Hi guys, this is my first post [H]
I expected more from your first post. Life is full of disappointments. [;)]
Welcome to Mises.org! [:D]
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Sorry bud, I don’t see the necessity of lavish words. I’m a minimalist by trait and practice what I preach, unlike Orwell [8-)] . Yes, I love simplistic writing and hate dancing around words, unless it’s unavoidable. I wonder if there’s a word that’s not as derogative as “simpleton” because “minimalist” is not cutting “it”.
P.S.
I’m just ranting, since your the first person to respond to my post.
Ah yes. Nazis and commies were mortal enemies too. I guess that means commies are nice fellows.
Found an old article of DiLorenzo titled “Economic Fascism.” Hope this would [help] you guys out.
Some people think I’m right-wing/fascist/Republican/whatever because I oppose Obama’s policies. It’s a huge problem for me because once I start talking people about how bad Obama’s policies are, they automatically think I’m a right-wing/fascist/Republican/whatever. But I thank governement education for teaching them that logic.
It does seem that right wing is a hodge podge catch all phrase for evil, or stuff that you aren’t supposed to like. It very well may be, when defined by certain parameters. I really anymore have a hard time defining the two wings when it comes to the more mainstream views. They seem to have roughly the same “ideology” they just buy off different special interests and the right just happens to be worse at propaganda.
Sure they are. Liberty is on one side, slavery on the other. Which side is which makes absolutely no difference. Fascism and socialism are on the same side, no matter which side it happens to be.
Hitler was a big fan of Stalin in private.
Of course, Hitler had a variety of other traits indicative of conservatism: he was an environmentalist and egalitarian, not to mention that he despised the Catholic church.
The differences between communism and fascism are practically indistinguishable. They’re both despotic in their nature. The entire left/right model is flawed.
There really are only three basic forms of government:
Now, go trace the history of german militarism and nationalism from prussian militarism to libertarian hero count (cough cough) bismarck and 20th century militarists…and then come back. Also, out of curiosity, wasn’t the first world war started by the austrian catholic monarchy ? Just sayin’…
Or to put it another way: