The word “Nazi” gets thrown around a lot, directed at both sides of the political spectrum. Which side, Left or Right, does it more accurately represent? I considered this after watching a recent “Young Turks” interview with Jonah Goldberg.
Feels to me like its kinda both. The right-wing here has that insane nationalism part of Nazism down pat. The left-wing has plenty of social controls that they love to implement for their idea of a more cultured and humane society. And they both love a good invasion.
Don’t communist nations have intense nationalism?
They sure do.
Tough question.
NAZI’sm, and usually other forms of fascism, are basically the epitome of hegemony. It’s populism for the power structure, basically. Strong nationalism, very hawkish, anti-labor, pro-corporation (Corporatist economy), anti civil liberties; it’s basically the Tea Party leadership without the cheap military suits or steroids/uppers (NAZI’s on meth, look into it ).
EDIT: It’s safer to call it right wing, but it all depends on how you define the wings. Left anti aristocracy, Right pro, or Left anti capitalism, right pro. It’s basically what happens when very wealth and powerful capitalist tyrants subvert socialism from its very wealthy and powerful tyrants. Huffington says right, Beck says left. They hate/d communists, that’s why I say it’s safer to say right.
I recommend abandoning the Left - Right paradigm… or at least putting it in its place… a very small place behind the back of the sofa
Yes, what Nir said ^ … and did I really say “basically” 3x?
Statism is statism is statism?
Haha, basically
People place it on the Right because it’s pro-Property Rights (kind of.) People place it on the Left because it’s interventionist and has socialist aspects to it. My axis is like this:
X-Axis: Socialism on the Left, Corporatism in the Center, Capitalism on the Right
Y-Axis: Individualism on the Top, Communitaranism in the Middle, Authoritarianism on the Bottom
So Nazism falls in the “bottom center.” I do typically consider them Far-Right although I hardly think it matters to be consistent with the “Horseshoe Theory.”
The word right wing has no meaning.
The word left wing is only used to refer to the Jacobins sitting in their own small corner in the French national assembly. Every violent secular radical is a Jacobin in some way, so it only describes the Ba’athist parties in Middle East and Kemalists.
On serious evaluation, Marx can not be called left-wing, because Marxism sees violence as inefficient and unproductive, and Marxists believe the fall of capitalism happens on its own without help.
And not only does the word right wing have no meaning, trying to give it a meaning would only mean, “Everybody who sat away from the Jacobins”, which is mostly all people with some bare sense of decency. So there is no such thing as a right wing belief.
Right, wrong, wrong, wrong, right. All you have to do is read some Hitler speeches to learn some facts.
Why is he wrong?
See the second sentence.
For one, he is wrong becase Corporatism /= Corporatocracy. That should explain 2/3 “wrongs” Caley McKibbin referenced.
What did Hitler speak about?
Speeches do not make policy friend. Should I have to explain this to a member of this site? And fascist policy is very much what I described.
Oh, resist; =/= != does not equal
And yes, democratism != democracy
The policy made the speeches.
Should I have to counter Marxist revisionism to a member of this site?
For anyone interested in reading Mises’s take on this, check out Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War (1944).
Here, Mises discusses the historical and ideological roots of Nazism.