"I am a socialist"

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I’m ami gi, and I am a socialist.

I believe that wealth ought to be put to whatever use will benefit the masses. I want to see the mechanisms of our economy working for the many, and not for the entrenched interests of a few.

Therefore, I call for the complete abolition of the State, which is the leading cause of our inordinate concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Our financial system, our common defense, and all of our public-sector industries should be placed under the control of the people, interacting in free, private sector institutions.

Say what? You want our wealth to be redistributed by the few at the top, who have been ruthless enough (or just lucky) to seize control of the military-industrial complex?

You fascist!

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Oh, you’re so silly. Don’t you see that all we have to do is put the right people into office and things will go just fine?

You fascists believe in some mysterious “invisible hand” that will put the right people is positions of power over the people. Such ridiculous ideas have been proven time and again as false.

Statism is a failed policy.

But won’t the strong crush the weak if there is no protecting element in society, even if it can be misused? I mean, sure, the state has been used to kill many innocent civilians abroad, but that’s not a point against the state per se, but against an anarchic order of rivaling nation states!

In fact, if we had a global government with an international democratic redistribution mechanism, there would be much less conflict and poverty and thus, global citizens could become more focused on electing the right people. If you don’t have to worry about where you water will come from the next day, you can challenge the system! All we need is hope, and change will ensue.

You blame capitalist for being too statist, yet you accept socialism? Who coordinates resource allocation in a socialist government but the state?

Methinks this you are a hypocritical troll.

You realise that in all situations of voluntary exchange, man is seeking a profit (surplus value for nothing), right? Private property and profit are natural

You fascist imperialists are always looking to expand your reach so you can exploit more people. Statism is based on greed. Greedy bureaucrats just trying to make a profit at the expense of exploited taxpayers/draftees.

Down with fascism! Free-market Socialism is the answer!

someone needs to bad this troll

Or he’s being sarcastic.

ah… well then joke failed.

Methinks you do not know what you are talking about.

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Our financial system, our common defense, and all of our public-sector industries should be placed under the control of the people, interacting in free, private sector institutions.

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I have nothing to lose but my chains!

Every argument socialists use against capitalism can be used against statism. Try it!

Smiles, this is a worthwhile strategy to denounce the statist utopias, like socialism, merkantilism and communism. I mean after all, it is just what they did with terms as well.

Maybe we should translate our concepts into their phrases :-).

To put weslth to the benefit of the masses, there is a way, it is called division of labor. To have the economy working for the many, there is a way called free markets.

Again, an interseting strategy.

[quoteuser=“ama gi”]

I’m ami gi, and I am a socialist.

I believe that wealth ought to be put to whatever use will benefit the masses. I want to see the mechanisms of our economy working for the many, and not for the entrenched interests of a few.

Therefore, I call for the complete abolition of the State, which is the leading cause of our inordinate concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Our financial system, our common defense, and all of our public-sector industries should be placed under the control of the people, interacting in free, private sector institutions.

Say what? You want our wealth to be redistributed by the few at the top, who have been ruthless enough (or just lucky) to seize control of the military-industrial complex?

You fascist!

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It goes to show Socialists are just a very deluded branch of the Utilitarians.

Exactly. I don’t know why we’ve never thought of it before.

If there is no incentive to be your best and produce the most, even the lazy drug addicts deserve what a doctor gets, you promote people dumbing themselves down so we are all equally miserable.

I believe in, from each according to his ability, and to each according to his need. I believe the best way to affect this phenomena is by free and voluntary exchange, unfettered by the demands of the military-industrial complex. Only then will we see change in the right direction.

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of exploited taxpayers. Workers of all lands: untie!

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That’s very good. Why dont you move to Cuba. That country would surely be a paradise for you.