http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-fair-society/201108/what-s-the-matter-libertarianism
It’s kind of interesting, but I have never understood the liberal mindset when it tries to refute a libertarian argument in favor of self-ownership. Look at this particular passage:
We evolved as intensely interdependent social animals, and our sense of empathy toward others, our sensitivity to reciprocity, our desire for inclusion and our loyalty to the groups we bond with, the intrinsic satisfaction we derive from cooperative activities, and our concern for having the respect and approval of others all evolved in humankind to temper and constrain our individualistic, selfish impulses (as Darwin himself pointed out in The Descent of Man).
So we are not, after all, like bumper cars in a carnival, where we all range freely, and, if we cause “harm” by crashing into others, we simply say “excuse me” and move on. Rather, we are (most of us) embedded in an exceedingly complex network of social relationships, many of which are vital to our well-being. Every day we confront issues relating to the needs and wants of others and must continually make accommodations. And in addressing these conflicting interests, the operative norm is - or should be - fairness, a balancing of the interests and needs of other parties, other “stakeholders.”
It’s a very fuzzy complaint at best. Let’s assume for the time being that he is talking about Randites here who value “selfishness” (and of course as anyone who has read Rand nows that her definition of “selfishness” is not “go f*$& yourself, I’m looking out for #1”), but the objection really stems from a muddled type of, “yeah, well, we kinda are cooperating beings and we’re very social, so therefore ‘we’ have the right to extort you because self-ownership is really a man-made construct.”
My response to the above article is: And? What is your point? What does this have to do with the central thesis of libertarianism, about the right to exercise bodily control over your person? The answer is that it has nothing at all to do with it. This may be very good advice and it is very good advice to understand human psychology and what will probably make someone happy. If so, you should get involved in your community, love your neighbors and family, and be there for them when they fall on hard times. This of course dodges the issue of whether or not threatening to kill and/or throw them in a rape cage if they do not comply is justified. They say yes because they value a nebulous fairness over the cloaked violence that they perpetuate.
Indeed, libertarians generally have no model of society as an interdependent group with a common purpose and common interests. For instance, the canonized conservative economist Friedrich Hayek posited a stark choice between two alternative models - either a “free market” of atomized individuals rationally pursuing their self-interests in transactional relationships or an authoritarian, coercive “state” that seeks control over us. In Hayek’s words, “socialism means slavery.”
Is not forcefully taking the product of one’s labor against their will a form of slavery? Why are you avoiding that definition and deriding it? It would be more honest of you to say that slavery, in some instances, is justified. The difference between a slave in ancient Egypt building a pyramid and one filling out an IRS form is only a matter of degree. And no libertarian seriously thinks we are atomized individuals, only in the sphere of action or in the sphere of having rights (“society” is a concept without concrete existence, only the component parts make up society). Not many libertarians are against society, just initiatory aggression.
The whole point about splitting the possibilities into two options is that a little bit of socialism is socialism and a little bit of centering society around violence is centering society around violence. It sounds absolutist, but you are ceding the concept of all self-ownership in the name of utility, so you do not have an absolute right to ward off a rapist or a murderer, you only have a right to do so because it increases societial utility, or something. That strikes me as a bit counter-intuitive (if we’ll grant moral realism on its face).
Anyway, I’m done. The rest is leftist cliches. Perhaps you guys could savage it