If The State Set You Free, Would You Still Want It Abolished?

If I’m free, then I’m not constrained to my personal patch of property.

The subjective theory of value is objective. [;)]

Go ahead, press.

Sure, they were willing to die for a concept, an idea. I’m not that kind of guy, I guess.

If you take it as such, sure. I can’t really find a way around it, but that doesn’t necessarily mean there isn’t one.

If you find it to your benefit, sure. I care about people, but only because it makes me feel good. I don’t think there is such a thing as pure altruism.

Then what of the possibility of the better system which will grant you a better quality of life? Wouldn’t you want that achieved?

Sure, but it all depends on what the individual considers “better”. I have fairly simple wants, so it’s hard to really envision a reason for me to care about the existence of a state that completely leaves me alone. This is what I aspire to, except in the Northeast.

What about chicks? And the latest Internet stuff? And laziness?

Got one.

Won’t need it anymore.

Laziness is good, but I can imagine I would have more down time than if I worked 9-5. After all, the Europeans all thought the Natives were layabouts when they showed up here. And if I wanted to be completely lazy, I could be. I would starve, but if I value sloth that much, it would still be my choice to make.

Sounds like a pretty good life then, but how is the State really stopping you from doing that now?

Let’s see: squatting on someone else’s land, or not paying property taxes, hunting out of season, fishing out of season, illegal snaring, illegal fires, possession of firearm, bow, or crossbow without license, hunting without license, fishing without license, being over 18 and not having current picture ID, the list really goes on and on.

So buy some land, and maybe get a gun permit and an ID every 10 years or whatever. If you’re way out in Wyoming or somewhere I don’t think anyone will find out about any of that. It might be a risk, but probably way down on the list considering the situation you’re talking about.

I don’t think they would accept oak leaves as payment for property tax.

Without an address?

So I get to move to a place I don’t want to be, and become a fugitive? Wow, that does sound pretty awesome.

Believe me, I’ve lived with creeping paranoia about every action I’ve taken before (owned by the military for a while). It is not fun.

Well Jackson, on a personal note, I think there are ways to do what you want and have it work out fine, especially in some other country. I’m sure there are forums for such things.

Yeah, it’s possible.

I like the northeast. I’ve spent all my years familiarizing myself with the local flora and fauna. Moving would suck.

Haven’t really looked, but I don’t doubt it.

There is no such thing as buying land in the US. You are a renter, and have to pay rent each year or get evicted. You cannot live the kind of life he is talking about and have money to pay rent.

That, in summation, is why I am against the government. Their policies have made simple subsistence impossible in my preferred geographic region of residence.

I aspire to a similar life that Jackson talks about. I live part of it now, but the gov’t still has those damn taxes and the regulations here to burn a simple small fire, even though I live in the woods, are just plain stupid. All the other arguments Jackson made as well. And what about chicks or the internet?..lol Cause it’s the wilderness?

AJ. You sound just like a statist here, not meant to be pejorative. The love it or leave mentality, “…work out fine, especially in some other country…”. God knows I’ve argued against the same mentality by gov’t lovers that have visited this forum and other venues.

No sir. This is my property. The gov’t can love that or leave it.

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Who do we rent from?