Do you worship the writers here at LvMI? Do you cry your eyes out when you watch a Walter Block video?
I didn’t think so.
Now these folks on the other hand…
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Personally I see the die hard partisans of both major parties, that worship state power and expect it to solve all the worlds problems, as far more cultish than most of us here. They certainly have no room to talk anyway.
“Do you worship the writers here at LvMI? Do you cry your eyes out when you watch a Walter Block video?”
… All the time… Don’t you?
And Walter Block is a truly, truly beautiful human being!
MY LIFE FOR MISES! MARGINAL UTILITY THEORY OF VALUE SHALL PREVAIL!!!
You don’t really agree. Theists must prove their position regardless of context. The burden of proof is ALWAYS on them. It has nothing to do with starting a thread in mises.org or anywhere else.
You clearly implied it? And in theory it was Descartes’ objective too. And if you didn’t imply it then your invocation of Descartes is irrelevant. Maybe you should a) pay attention b) stop pretending that you have the moral high ground.
Yeah, that begs THE question.
Again, I don’t think you are in a position to tell anyone how they should behave. “Go away idiot”
So, notice that theists don’t have good manners, nor good arguments. Atheists didn’t have good manners either. And the local ‘libertarian’ atheists are pretty fanatical in their intolerance for people who don’t bother pretending that they tolerate religious delusions.
I have a shrine to Henry Hazlitt in my closet.
On a more serious note, I’m going to go out on a limb here and postulate that this nincompoop is a Stefan Molyneux cultist. His rhetoric closely mirrors that of Molyneux and I’ve been seeing more and more of them populate libertarian circles lately.
Mind you I have nothing against Molyneux himself. I agree with him on a great deal. His devotees just seem to be very opinionated but not very knowledgeable. They hold a great deal of hatred toward religious people. I’m not religious, but I find seething hatred towards anyone to be counterproductive.
Btw, I recently heard Molyneux claim that the Mises Institute is a Catholic organization. I know that some of the prominent members are Catholic but this claim is new to me. Is there any truth to it?
Btw, I recently heard Molyneux claim that the Mises Institute is a Catholic organization. I know that some of the prominent
members are Catholic but this claim is new to me. Is there any truth to it?
what would that even mean…?
Does the Mises Institute openly endorse Catholicism?
It is a pretty simple question. It does not need clarification.
Does the Mises Institute openly endorse Catholicism?
The Mises Institute (this one, there are others) is a corporate fiction, it does not ‘endorse’ anything, except (metaphorically) the ideas associated with Ludwig von Mises. Both Mises and Rothbard were atheists, as (I believe) Block and possibly Hoppe are.
There are a number of associates of the LvMI that do advocate Catholicism, both on its own grounds and in relation to liberalism/libertarianism; and probably even more who promote social and logical philosophy associated with Catholicism (Scholasticism and Thomistic logic).
Yes, I am fully aware of the legal fiction of corporate personhood, thank you. I am also aware of the relgious allignment of many of the Mises Institute's prominent fellows and influences. (It was precisely the athiesm of Rothbard and agnosticism of Mises that made me skeptical of Molyneux's claim). Many voluntary associations of individuals, however, collectively adhere to certain ideas (which is why they formed the bloody organization in the first place--so that like-minded people can get together and share ideas).
I will take Liberté's answer as a "no" (albeit an unecessarily cryptic one).
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I am skeptic, rationalist and try to think critically wherever I can and do not trust and question people with funny clothes/hats (police-men, politicians, priests and so on) .
“The Mises Institute (this one, there are others) is a corporate fiction, it does not ‘endorse’ anything, except (metaphorically) the ideas associated with Ludwig von Mises.”
Wanna expand upon that there buddy?
I believe she is trying to point out that the Mises Institute is just a collection of individuals without any “official” endorsements other than the ideas associated with Mises. Since Liberte acknowledges that Mises was not Catholic, we can deduce that she is simply answering “no” to my question. But in typical Liberte-fashion, she is incapable of simply saying so, she must speak in riddles that complicate things.
Wanna expand upon that there buddy?
What? You do agree that the LvMI is not an actual person with volition, don’t you?
I will take Liberté's answer as a "no" (albeit an unecessarily cryptic one).
There is a western Civilization/Eurocentrism to the LvMI which is not the same as endorsing Catholicism, though it might imply agreement with certain doctrines and practices of Catholic civilization. Still, I’ve never gotten the impression that the institute itself had any kind of ‘line’ on it other than a general agreement that Christianity is not necessarily bad in relation to liberalism/libertarianism.
“What? You do agree that the LvMI is not an actual person with volition, don’t you?”
Ok, for a moment I though that you were saying LVMI was some nonexistent institution brought about by the state or some odd conspiracy theory of the like. NVM
Ok, for a moment I though that you were saying LVMI was some nonexistent institution brought about by the state or some odd conspiracy theory of the like. NVM
Don’t you know? Mises and Rothbard were some of those interdimensional Reptilian Jews!
Ever been to PrisonPlanet? LOL!
But in typical Liberte-fashion, she is incapable of simply saying so, she must speak in riddles that complicate things.
Aside from sheer habit (I do read 19th century sociologists more than I talk with living human beings), I find ‘everyday speech’ to be far too muddled to be useful for philosophical or general theoretical use. I sacrifice ease of communication to try to express what I mean more precisely. Also, I think a lot of questions people ask me don’t admit of ‘simple answers’, most questions (for example: are you against stealing?) can not be properly answered with ‘yes’ or ‘no’ because they either ignore or assume vitally important and not necessarily obvious contingent circumstances, and/or I deny the premises on which the question is formed.
I also have Asperger’s and take things extremely literaly and run it through a pattern-particularist language dissection program in mah head.
Libertarianism has to do with consistently adhering to the NAP, it has nothing to say about God.
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Are you saying that I have to, at all times, begin all conversations, by first proving the existence of God? Absurd. The burden of proof is on the individual who originally puts forth the proposition/argument. In this case, the argument was incoherent and belligerent. Also, I don’t know why the burden of proof is always on the theist, but okay.
No, I didn’t.
You’re way too emotionally attached to your militant atheism and it’s making you entirely irrational.
I know where you’re coming from. My brother has Asperger’s. He’s the hardest-working/most brilliant person I’ve ever known. Just a bit socially awkward.
Don’t change on my account though, I do enjoy reading your posts.
Damn quotes aren’t working again.
Libertarianism has to do with consistently adhering to the NAP, it has nothing to say about God.
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I’m saying that you are playing dumb.
THIS is a thread about THEISM. PROVE the claims made by your particular branch of theism or admit that you are…making stuff up?
That’s totally, fully and completly false. You as a theist have the burden of proof. And please bear in mind that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ha ha ha. That’s a great joke. Now, what if you stop joking and instead provide some facts?
Can you point out to things that I said on this thread that are ‘entirely irrational’? Is my rejection of theism, aka, irrationality, an example of…uh…irrationality?
