Someone on (I think it was) Financial Sense made the point that Germany is doing economically what it wasn’t able to do militarily; that is, take over Europe. That Greece has lost much of its sovereignty to be bailed out by Germany. I think the same could eventually occur to the remainder of the PIIGS, and even France. And it is the citizens of Germany are paying for this take over, not the 3l33ts.
Germany is being coerced by the IMF into taking over the EUzone. It is the 133t$.
Germany the citizens, or Germany the high-up politicians (Merkel, et al.)? I don’t see why the 3l33ts, via teh IMF, would have to coerce Merkel, if Merkel already does their bidding.
Germany the country. Merckel is a l33t. Right? Are there any heads of state that aren’t basically butt buddies with the bankers in the area? Free markets are great, but you should not be privatizing these assets, as they are in the EU, to the very banks that cause the problems. That is the biggest mistake i could imagine.
You call Germany paying Greece’s bills taking over Europe?
What has Germany gotten out of all this?
The best thing for them by far is to tell all the PIIGS, bye bye, you’re on your own, we are going back to deutschemarks.
That is why i think it is coercion, not choice. The people in those countries have about as much control over their governments as we do over ours.
For your very question, I specifically put: “And it is the citizens of Germany are paying for this take over, not the 3l33ts.”
Yes. How does that contribute to my conspiracy theory?
Yes, the German non-3l33ts are paying for this. The 3l33ts are getting Greece in return for the German non-el33ts money.
Yes. How does that contribute to my conspiracy theory?
It refutes it
The 3l33ts are getting Greece in return for the German non-el33ts money.
What exactly are they getting from Greece? Germany is printing German money, handing it to Greece, who hands it right back to German banks.
Do you think swastikas will be flying over the Parthenon or something?
the new ‘swastika’ is the ‘stars and stripes’.
The l33ts are getting revenue generating assets out from under PIIGS for money that they borrow from the IMF that is collateralized on the back of the EUzone people.
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so these leets are Germans who run the IMF? Is there even such an animal? And if they are getting revenue generatiung assets, why is there need for a bailout and/or a default? they are getting paid in revenue generating assets?
Also, the greek govt has no revenue genrating assets. nor does any govt.
perhaps you could list specific assets that are going to be taken over by the leets so we understand you better.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh… the best thing for America would be to default. Oh wait, it hasen’t done that. Error! Error! Does not compute!
How could possibly know what is “best” for the 3l33ts? If you’re merely specualting, then welcome to teh camp.
Ummmmm, lotteries, national parks, nationalized companies…
the l33ts are from all over do not try to generalize. They are using the bailout money to buy the revenue generating assets.
Speculate all you want, but there has to be some shred of plausibility. Say a man is running naked on a superhighway where the cars are doing 70 mph.
You could say that he is doing it as part of an intricate plot for Germany to take over Greece, and it would make as much sense as saying the current crisis in Greece is Germany taking over.
The German people are losing money to their banks. The Greeks are living high on the hog, giving Germany and their 'leets" nothing. The German people lose, the Greeks gain. No Greek property changes hands. How is part of a conspiracy to take over Greece?
It’s like saying Obama being elected presiident is part of a conspiracy to keep black people from becoming president.
I think you are really misinterpreting what we are joking about.
the l33ts are from all over do not try to generalize.
oxymoron?
They are using the bailout money to buy the revenue generating assets.
You could equally say anytime someone anywhere on the planet lends money to a govt, say joe shmoe buying treasury bills, he is conspitring to take over the world, because he will use the interest on the loan to buy something.
Here is the scenario. Bank A lends money to greece. It expects to get interest payments. If it does, then that is not a conspiracy, no matter what it buys with the money, even the parthenon. Otherwise you have to say every intention of anyone to turn a profit and invest it is a dark conspiracy.
Now say the greek govt, instead of paying the interest it is legally bound to, tells Bank A “sorry, we are broke.” Bank A finds someone to bail out the greek govt. Meaning to pay the bank the interest it was supposed to get anyway. Now it’s suddenly a conspiracy to take over the world?
I think you are really misinterpreting what we are joking about.
yes, you got me dead to rights. didnt see it coming.
I don’t understand the Obama analogy.
How is 3l33ts using German people’s money to bail out Greece and, in return, having a say in Greek politics not plausible.
You seem to be saying that it is not plausible that the USA government would bail out Wall Street banks using American citizen’s money and, in return get new regulatory power over the banks.