Marching is one thing, but is marching with loaded weapons in a city where this is illegal (and Washington, D.C. no less) really the most prudent type of march possible? Especially when all it takes is for one dumbass to fire his gun and make a most likely tense situation into a possible bloodbath?
How does that differ from any other moment of any day anywhere, since guns were invented? Sounds like Piers Morgan. More guns = more death.
If anything this march is good to expose the inner statist of this ‘liberty movement’.
You’re right, I forgot that MLK and Gandhi marched with loaded weapons.
My bad.
Yeah, cus, that even remotely addresses what I said.
It’s not like you addressed what I said.
@Habba
Because what you wrote was unintelligible
Short answer: I don’t know. It’s never been done. Your turn to prove how two guys who were murdered is a good example of protests not resulting in death.
No, I’m pretty sure that the burden of proof is on you to establish a cause and effect relationship between the two events before I have to try and disprove anything.
You brought it up???
Whatever. I don’t really care. You already pulled a “most likely” and “possible” in one sentence.
lol ok bud.
EDIT: You will notice that I talked about prudence in my post, not about a definite cause and effect relationship. Feel free to ignore that word and interpret what I said however you want.
What you mean to say is, all it takes is one undercover gov’t agent to fire a bullet before a bloodbath breaks out.
Just ask Clayton, he’ll tell ya.
That could happen, as well as a tense cop firing the first shot, or whatever. I don’t know if you remember when this cop completely overreacted to this situation and punched a woman in the face. Now what happens if you get a cop like that but he pulls a trigger instead of just punching someone?
You have every right to walk down a dark alley by yourself in a high crime neighborhood, I just wouldn’t consider that a prudent action.
It is interesting to see how people side on this topic.
Indeed. It is interesting to see the usual suspects (in my book) lining up in favor of a government plant.
Clayton -
So, Kokesh’s goal is to show to the government that the people will no longer bend over backwards. Why? As if the government cares. How many of us are here because we saw Kokesh (or someone else) march down the street?
I think a better solution to no longer bending over backwards is, simply, to act in disregard to the state and persuade others to do the same. Go live life. Have business, and preferably a black market one. Have a family and home school the children. Spread the idea of liberty.
+1 Malachi.
We (sorry, “Libertarians”) don’t need washington. We just need our own land. Revolution stinks and spells disaster, secession however…
Failure of imagination. Every single day it becomes easier to communicate good ideas with other people.
In the last month, r/libertarian (reddit) grew by 3.7%, r/anarcho_capitalism by 4.3% and r/austrian_economics by 3%.
In the last 30 days, my Youtube channel alone enjoyed 6,805 hours of viewtime (actual watched time). The Mises Institute channel likely gets a lot more. And those are only topics that are directly related to liberty. There are many things people are continually learning about that indirectly make them more susceptible to liberty.
So what’s the goal then? Pointless self-sacrifice?
A right is not something you have. It is something that continually has to be granted to you by other people. This is why ideas matter. Once you stop caring about what people believe, then you’ve already lost.
Congratulations. First I thought this was silly of Kokesh, but then I saw how the reaction to his silliness is even sillier so that now I have to side with Kokesh. Congratulations for making me pro-Kokesh march.
Guy wants to do something that’s ballsy and that he has a right to, and all you can think about is how this is going to make you look? Hey, you’re totally way less self-centered than Kokesh is. NOT!
Hey you know, it’s marketplace of ideas, marketplace of activism flavors. Pursue different avenues. Let him do his thing and let’s see in the long term what works. Or are you a socialist, or a psychic maybe, you know in advance there can’t come anything good from his course? Viva activism central planning commission, and licensed-activists only.
No, it is not the most prudent type of march possible. Apparently they aren’t aiming for prudent. It’s not the highest value for them. They’re aiming for some other value they rank higher.
Facebook a tool of liberty?? Sheesh.
Clayton -