thats self defense. deliberately violating ordinances en mass isnt self defense during regular behavior. I thought I made that clear.
again, whats the point? this plan is idiotic.
What an odd thing to say…
whats odd about it? can you answer my question? is that the oddity, that there is no answer?
Coming from Malachi, I kind of thought so too.
Who cares what the point is? it will be interesting if it goes down*.*
So, as Daniel said the DC police are “rapists” and if you’re planning a tour of DC, wouldn’t it make sense to have effective defensive tools?
this isn’t exactly my cup of tea, but power to 'em, I say. Entertain me.
We’re not gonna change this system. For God’s sake Ron Paul was banking on the monetary system collapsing and that event galvanizing support for the cause. So, just sit back and watch.
it wouldnt make sense to announce your tour to the rapists.
and seriously. whats the point? either you intend to shoot people, or you intend to demonstrate your willingness to shoot people under certain conditions. well, guess what, we already decided that revolution is illegal in this country. so youre a dumbass if you announce it, or demonstrate intent to revolt under some circumstance where you can easily be eliminated.
is there a rebuttal to this somewhere or should I go to bed?
Cop out response.
I know you are but what am I?
ps I edited
Who are you speaking for when you say, “we?” What is, “this country?”
BTW - You come off as paranoid; just saying. Every time someone asks you a question, you seem to get super defensive. It’s really weird.
qft. It is only this issue as well.
Revolution, by definition, is illegal. Where in the world is revolution not illegal? Or did you mean to say that secession is illegal? We did have to “decide” that that was illegal.
Like I said, I don’t care what the point is. I just want politics to be more interesting than demographic analysis and abortion/gay marriage issues.
This I agree with. And as you said before, tactics are necessary (let’s not talk about them). Kokesh likely has none. And if he did that would mean that you are correct in your characterization that 'they are willing" to go further. But, that also means that these people are planning a paramility program which I highly doubt. If they’ve read their nicaragua manual they would know that there are many steps before you take things to that level.
we means americans. people who identify as americans. frag waving americans, beer can patriots.
you didnt ask me a question. I did however ask you four, and you havent answered one. maybe thats why I’m paranoid.
What does that mean though? Can someone who is born halfway across the world call themselves “American” if they identify themselves as such? Especially if they wave flags and beer cans? This all sounds so fascinating.
I said, “Every time someone.” That means, anyone who asks you one.
Relax and take a chill pill. 
yes thats what I meant. and its stupid because its provocative, sure it might be interesting to an international relations major, I cant fault you for that. it just stinks of managed opposition and its not going to happen, the point was to fill space and get facebook buzzing, see whose family asks which young men “please dont even think of this”
sure they can, why not? they already do, they dont need my permission for it. although I dont know what about it so find fascinating, its rather droll in my opinion.
So if someone doesn’t identify themselves as one, it’s not illegal if they do it then.
they have no claim to the right to do it, so it defaults to the standards for behavior set by the putative owner, the corporation/state united states federal government. such action is prohibited by the landowner, so its armed trespass, so its illegal.
Sort of. I think it stinks more of the fact that the Russians successfully promoted someone whom they knew to be more hardliner than Bill O’Rielly. His platform gave him his popularity. A.K.A i doubt the the US would do this for managed opposition. If they are then their backs are against the wall.
Think of this, Glenn Beck’s move toward reporting Alex Jones-type information (going so far as to mimic Jones websites) just shows that they are losing ground and were attempting to bring paranoia and more scandalous information to the Mainstream. Fox tried to bring paranoia into the fold to add to the anti-left movement and it backfired because the information that was released ended up revealing the corruption of the right as well. Beck was meant to control the influence of that information, but he could not (he was used not a planner). So beck was taken off of TV.
The US handling Kokesh would be a similar desperate (the desperation cannot be stressed enough) attempt by the right wing interests to destabalize the left wing government. The RNC is mostly an ultranationalist party. The left is an internationalist party and the seuccess of the left is scaring the Republican interests.
So people who call themselves “the state” or “government” have a claim? How did they obtain this claim? Is it a legitimate claim? The way I understand it, people who call themselves government took this land by force, not voluntary action. I don’t consider this a legitimate claim just like I wouldn’t consider it as such if your neighbor came to your place, whacked you over your head, and called your house his. Or am I missing something?
Gun control debates with statists? More guns more safety.
Gun control debates with anarchists? No reason to carry one planned cointel bloodbath!11
they turned him by showing a tape on john noveskes last moments, perhaps. their backs are against the wall, that much is sure. the crisis of legitimacy is only going to get worse.
these are attempts to retain market share and control the flow of information that will be exposed regardless. these are, as you say, acts of desperation.
Regarding the dispute over what, exactly, is legal:
Clayton -